Passing mention characters, will we see them again?

[GD_Elite]

Originally, I was thinking about starting a thread for female relatives of characters, to see if leverage was being used to ensure the rat's co-operation. However, considering the revelations of chapter 24, in my mind this is cleared up now.

We have already seen characters that have been mentioned appear later:

• "Saul's girl" is mentioned chapter 1, and came to the story later as Lady. (Chapter 5)
• Angel's girlfriend, Cindy, is mentioned in chapter 1, and she met a tragic end at the end of that chapter.
• Saul's mom is mentioned in chapter 1, and is later Tanya (Chapter 18)
• Samantha's daughter is mentioned in chapter 10, coming to the story as Hope in chapter 18.
• Randy is mentioned in chapter 19 and appears in zombie form in 23.

However, there are still a whole heap of characters that have been mentioned but are uncertain to be dead.

• Bill mentions Sandy. We have no idea who that is.
• Lizzy's dad paid for her to get a degree.
• Kelly's sister/Tommy's mom is MIA. It is also worth noting that Tommy's sister/Kelly's niece is turned.
• Datu has kids back in the philipines.
• Datu's parents are looking after his kids.
• Datu says his grandmother carried a gun.
• Datu's ex-wife, mother to his kids.
• Burt has a niece who drives hybrids.
• Ryan has wife and kids who are missing.
• Pegs' dad is a pilot.
• Riley's mother read her the story of Robin Hood.
• Kalani's girl, Hannah. Presumably dead.
• Michael's parents are probably dead too, because Michael is a liar.
• CJ was the leader of the other tower, but Kalani says she is dead.
• Survivors on the Yacht.
• Bill Roberts (thanks nikvoodoo)

With all these people with unconfirmed fates, surely there is a possibility that some of them will return at a later date. Do you think that we might see any of these people in the future? If so, who? I think it's quite possible considering the other characters that have appeared as characters. Also, if you think I have missed someone, post it and I'll add it to the list.

Extra Fun Fact: We know absolutely nothing about Victor's past.

[nikvoodoo]

I believe that of the people you've listed the only ones we are likely to ever hear from in some capacity are Sandy, and Hannah.

Strictly my opinion, but:

• Lizzy's father serves no purpose in the story other than getting Lizzy her degree which she's using to analyze the Mallers/Talk Bill Down.
• Kelly's sister disappearing was to set up the dynamic between Tommy and Kelly. I think she's served her purpose.
• Datu's Family: Simply because of the distance, I'm not sure they will ever appear in L.A. I am of the mind that his children may want to try to find their Dad, but do they have the means to sail from the Philippines to Los Angeles? I think they were used to establish Datu's paternal nature for Hope.
• Burt's niece was used to establish the lack luster nature of a hybrid in terms of security, and shortly after we were treated to the Hybrid being crushed under the weight of a zombie attack
• Riley's mother and the story of Robin Hood was used to deepen Riley's archery abilities/background
• Michael's parents are dead. He's said so in a moment of vulnerability, but since we've heard him talk around it we establish Michael is reserved about revealing personal information.
• Kalani has turned out to be trustworthy (as of this moment), so I'll believe it when he says CJ is dead. And no other member of the Other Tower can reveal information now: Hope doesn't remember anything, and I'm not convinced Skittles lived there.
• I think the yachters are dead. They pulled into that harbor to restock and resupply and they probably died while doing it because their only hope for the future floated away from them. I think the point of the yacht was to show that you aren't safe anywhere. Land, Sea, and (now with the introduction of RPG's) air.

I'd throw Bill Roberts into that equation as well. While we still have no confirmation we've seen him, it's a very high probability he's been around. Maybe a special category for him alone outside of those you've mentioned.

But aside from that, most of the people that have been mentioned except for CJ, Hannah, and Sandy have established a relationship, a rule, or a quirk of the world we know and love.

[GD_Elite]

I've added Bill Roberts to the list.

I agree a lot of them are long shots. Especially with Riley's and Datu's family being overseas, and others just being very brief mentions. However, when Saul mentioned his mother or Samantha's mentions her daughter, these could have just been seen as points to build up the atmosphere of the moment.

I understand that it's your opinion, but basically I'm going with the idea that has been posted a lot on the Chapter 24 discussion: If Kc hasn't said they are dead, don't jump to conclusions.

[nikvoodoo]

Don't get me wrong, I'm not poo-pooing this idea at all. I wouldn't be shocked by the appearance of anybody on the list....except maybe Michael's parents. I think this opens up a really interesting debate about things we may have overlooked. Kc has said we have bits and pieces of the puzzle, but we're missing the connections at the moment (not saying we're dumb. Just saying we dont have the appropriate information to connect the dots). There is plenty to think about with this list and who may or may not have something to contribute.

[HardKor]

Of all the people on the list, I think Datu's family would be the most likely to make an appearance. I know the distance is a serious obstacle but Datu talked about wanting to get back to them. And he is such a dedicated character I don't see him giving up until he knows what happened to them.
Everyone else on the was mentioned in a more passing way: what they did in the past, etc. without much wondering about what happened to them.

*Edit*:
looking back up at the list, I noticed "the people on the yacht" I really hope we find out about them to. I just got back to that point on my current re-listen and the mystery has got my thoroughly intrigued.

[MancheeLivesOn]

I say Hannah is going to make an appearance or is at least going to be mentioned again. Datu hasn't mentioned his family in a while but I can see him going off at the end of the series to find what became to his family.

[7oddisdead]

i havent done a re-listen in a while...but at one point scratch is yelling at a fellow maller, and she mentions "feeding your ass to the sisters" i have a feeling this is one of the few that we could quite easily see....given the situation at the end

[Grognaurd]

Nik makes a lot of good points. But, I think he probably left Randy out by oversight.

I do not think Michael would call out Randy when sedated if Randy was just "one of the smart ones"-zombies.

Although it is not a person, it does have a proper name, Raydon Labs. Burt pulls a foreshadowing rabbit out of his hat when he says, see that, thats a level III badge from Raydon Labs, you gotta be pretty damn smart to get one of those. Security badges I have seen are dominated by the photo of the person. Other information on the card needs a closer inspection and there is no way to know apriori if one has to be very smart to get a level III badge. It is just as likely that level III could be third shift or whatever.

If we really want to reach: "The Party Girl" even had a speaking part early in Chapter 1.

Did Scratch say "poncho" when she was cutting up the guy at the other end of the CB radio and blamed for the loss of the tanker?

The Coast Guard was doing evac runs. They did lose at least one chopper at LAX. But, there were several airlifts from The Colony to somewhere. In this Mythos, the change is so quick, it is unlikely to have been ambushed by transporting the infection in. If they did fly out to sea, many of those areas could have awesome passive defenses. Even if the dead swam or sub-marathoned (quasi pun) to an aircraft carrier or oil rig I do not think the have a way up the shear sides.

[nikvoodoo]

Randy wasn't left out. We've met Randy already. He was in the list of names above the "Those we haven't met yet but have been mentioned" list.

That's why the party girl isn't on the list either. She was already in the story. Same with Professor Wayland

[Grognaurd]

Ah, ok. I read it as "known" minor-charcters with unknown current status. But, no worries. What's a couple of names amongst the 6,000,000,000 dead. In any case, I feel there is much more to know about Randy