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    Quote Originally Posted by HaveCrowBarWillTravel View Post
    What I feel everyone is missing is that the traitor had to have mulitiple conversations (or talked during one really long night shift) with the mallers in order to pass on such detailed info about everyone and the tower..ie the camera locations.
    My theory about the traitor being a "Red Shirt" being the traitor... I think it can be told and made interesting in a few different ways. Via his journal entries and told in the first person (like Samatha's story). They can find stuff in his room about other plans or any number of interesting things about the Mallers.
    Let's just say they stumble across information about Durai's past or information about Scratch and Angel's connection...
    The actual motivation for the visit then attack starts to flesh out and the traitor becomes a not so important issue because they find out so much more. The possibilities are endless.
    It's possible for the culprit to be a red shirt. But i think it would be really difficult to introduce a new character this late in the game. Especially after our recent influx of tanya, victor, hope, marcus, and gatekeeper (is it leader now?) all these characters minus gatekeeper and marcus, need to be fleshed out, i think it would be more difficult to bring in a new character for the sole purpose of being the traitor. But then again, i was dead certain that MPK wouldn't be able to escape the colony, and yet Kc pulled it off well. And since the point of the article was never to figure out who did it, rather figure out who didnt, I'd prly give a Possible rating for the redshirt theory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2-4-5 Trioxin View Post
    I haven't really thought about who the traitor is, but I just realized something once I red this...and it's about Kalani...Ok so we don't know much about him. And then there's the stated theory that he may be connected to the mallers but ended up being captured & placed in the arena...so check it out...and if it's already been posted, sorry about that...

    1) when he was at the other tower, it fell apart within 3 days he was there...he says they were attacked by the "zombies" but if you think about it, if he contacted the mallers to take over, they would've attracted the "zombies" with the noise they would bring...3 days is more than enough time to case the place out & get info to the mallers...

    2) now when he got to the "main" tower after being rescued, it was roughly 2 days before it fell apart...and remember once Michael, Angel & Saul were done de-breifing him, Angel told Kalani that he was going to be doing guard duty the following day, which gave him access to the radio...I also thought that in chap.16, Angel was testing him to see if he knew what channel the mallers used when they were dropping off Latch's body...He says he didn't know, but you never know...

    Anyway, that's my thought on another possibility that Kalani may be the culprit. But only KC knows who it is...
    If you remember from Chapter 19-1 we are given a first-hand account about how the other tower fell, i.e. hope. Hope explains how she got out of the tower by jumping out a three story window, that seems fishy to me, to avoid being eaten by a flesh-biter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJHellfire View Post
    If you remember from Chapter 19-1 we are given a first-hand account about how the other tower fell, i.e. hope. Hope explains how she got out of the tower by jumping out a three story window, that seems fishy to me, to avoid being eaten by a flesh-biter.
    i think its just luck and coincidence, when she jumped out the window, she wasnt blind, she hit the floor hard, prly what caused the blindness, and at the bottom, sean was waiting for her, and was able to save her life, crazier things have happened. Survival of the fittest is one part of surviving, the other is just plain luck. And from everythign we've heard it's prly a zombie attack that felled the second tower, not a maller hit
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    I have already given my theory about Kalani on a multiple of different threads, so I'm not going to hash it out here, again. Kalani is capable of being the rat. Hope tells Michael how the zombies were in the other tower, that takes some suspision away from Kalani. For all we know Kalani could just have some really crappy luck. I personally don't believe that. Again why would the mallers, if they actually took the other tower, want the tower? It doesn't make sense because Durai said he wanted a safer place to live. So to recap, Kalani a major possibility. Datu, I still believe to be innocent. He was still sick during the party.

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    Been a while so my memory is a bit faded.. But who was the guy that went out alone earlier in the story... Doing a little maller recon mission all by himself ?... Saul right ? They could have met up for tea and crumpets for all we know. Seems pretty gung ho for some dude, be it a hardened Ramboesque soldier to go running off into the netherworlds of zombie infestation to tackle some unknown hostile force alone... zom

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Janus View Post
    Been a while so my memory is a bit faded.. But who was the guy that went out alone earlier in the story... Doing a little maller recon mission all by himself ?... Saul right ? They could have met up for tea and crumpets for all we know. Seems pretty gung ho for some dude, be it a hardened Ramboesque soldier to go running off into the netherworlds of zombie infestation to tackle some unknown hostile force alone... zom
    Why would they be shooting him though a faint (almost impossible) possibility that he made the deal when he was in the hybrid.

    Other than that, I think anyone in the security room when the shot was fired into the mallers cannot be the traitor or at least working alone. That would be pegs, michael, Burt, Angel, and Tommy. Other than that, Bill was the only one with a key to unlock the Datu Keybox to get Burt's stuff. I would find it unreasonable to have Bill be framed as to have someone go into his apartment and steal his unknown key. Unless, someone took it from him when he was ill but I still find that unlikely as I doubt anyone could have reasonably guess what key would be what.

    The way I see it, I think Latch was lying about following Saul to the Tower as they were being attacked by them and I would think he would have made a clean getaway. I'm thinking she had connections beforehand to the tower with Bill. I could be wrong but I see no one else (aside from a red shirt) that would give up the tower except for Bill. Its the connection with Scratch however, is pure conjecture and I can't really prove it to be so.

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    Has anybody thought there may have been two traitors and not just one? I'm leaning to possibly a double team of kellie and Tommy. Come on I know they helped out and all but there was ample opportunity for them to scout out, use the radio and fire the shot. Doesn't have to be just one person. Right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by timberwoof View Post
    Has anybody thought there may have been two traitors and not just one? I'm leaning to possibly a double team of kellie and Tommy. Come on I know they helped out and all but there was ample opportunity for them to scout out, use the radio and fire the shot. Doesn't have to be just one person. Right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yarri View Post
    TimberWoof. My money is and has always been on Tommy being the traitor.. I say this in a whisper cause Ra1th might smack me around..
    What makes you think that? I mean Tommy was the one that wanted to stay on the lower floor to help out. I mean he set up cameras under the fire of mallers. Then again, he would be the perfect one to have talked to them with the CB radio along with him knowing about the elevators and having access to Riley's store. IN this case, he's a perfect traitor as much as Bill is (aside from not open pack of cheetos like him) and its scary to think about it that way. Only problem I have with this theory is that who would be why would he work with Bill?

    I mean he still would need to go to Bill to get the key to take the gun ammo and Bill had to at least know what Tommy was doing to take some of the cheetos from the hidden stash. Overall, it would fit the two people theory as Bill could be the one that shot at the Mallers and Tommy was the only one sober along with being in the Guard room to use the CB radio. ACTUALLY, shouldn't Tommy know who came to use the CB radio in the time the party going on? Then again, it could be before the party actually commenced that the message went out to come later that night.

    In the end, a Bill and Tommy combo looks good with maybe Kelly involved as a third party as I doubt she wouldn't know about the betrayal. Yet, Bill could have just horded stuff and the second traitor operated independantly on the opening Bill created. It still wouldn't account for the gunshot if Tommy was a Traitor and being stuck in the guard room. Maybe the mallers lied about being shot at but I'm pretty sure it was independantly confirmed by the tower that a shot did go off. In any case, it does leave a two traitor option in Tommy and maybe Kelly with Bill being a theif. I would narrow it down to those three unless a red shirt shows up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Janus View Post
    Been a while so my memory is a bit faded.. But who was the guy that went out alone earlier in the story... Doing a little maller recon mission all by himself ?... Saul right ? They could have met up for tea and crumpets for all we know. Seems pretty gung ho for some dude, be it a hardened Ramboesque soldier to go running off into the netherworlds of zombie infestation to tackle some unknown hostile force alone... zom
    To add a little more to this...
    If you guys remember, Saul also went to jail for a year. I think a year is more than enough time to join a gang. It is entirely possible that Saul could've been fired upon by accident, and, as Saul and Scratch were having a gunfight at close range, with automatic weapons firing down at him, I find it highly unlikely that he could have escaped unscathed, let alone without killing scratch.
    And when he came back... He didn't seem tired, he actually sounded rather relieved and happy. I can't imagine a miraculous escape like his could leave a person in such a state as his was when he came back.
    And finally, Saul wasn't in the room when the shots where fired, and he only had one shot in his gun when he killed the 1 man Maller scouting party during the war. And before someone calls me on the friendly fire with the molotov, do consider the guys he killed were destroying a crucial feature of the Tower, a feature that the Mallers could want, and I dont think he could exactly shout down and tell them to stop...

    He seems really fishy to me. I guess we will find out soon, because Lizzie got captured and is apparently being taken to Scratch. We can only see what Saul will do when he is out in the field looking for her, as the latest episode seems to indicate he will be doing.


 
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