Chapter 44-2: Life and Death

[UndeadSweeper]

Other thought:

I would not be surprised if Datu sooner or later combines all his mental mechanical Jedi strength in order to initiate his turning process because he is simply cannot stand being constantly asked if he is ok in two minute intervals.

And of course, if he is going to turn, Vic and Michael will not be prepared for it, that is for sure.

I love that this was addressed by Datu. It's very clear that character are think and said the same we thinking the real world.

[UndeadSweeper]

Babies....... even non-zombie, non-HGH, etc, etc babies can be born with some teeth already.

Add in the fact that Ink is pumping the mother and/or the baby with drugs and whatnot...... it is highly likely that they came out with teeth/nails or who know what other kind of craziness........


So I just had a thought................. But if I am not mistaken....... Wasn't #12 killed by the Soldiers from Boulder??? When Saul and Victor were out by themselves??? With that being said............. Is the #12 at the Arena his Mate??? Did each Little one have a "breeding partner"???

So you are said there are 24 of them? Which can explain why the size were different among the group.

[tonyhind86]

This has just become one of my all-time favourite episodes! So many twists and tense moments, can't wait to see how the next episode pans out

[Witch_Doctor]

Probably this is the very episode of "We're Alive" that really deserves the attribute "explicit" on Apple's iTunes ...

Need to digest it. Have listened to it now for a few times. That one, really, is hard to stomach ...

Ok, we had it with the infants being the ones which became the Little Ones ... But our estimate was like: infants from Cain Hospital. Now my questions are:
these 12 ones over here: were they all brought to "life" in the "Private Club Room"? Or were some of them brought there - like from the hospital -, while others were the nascituri of pregnant women which were brought here?
Edit: Or in much more detail, like I have posted it on Facebook:

"2) What exactly has happened in the "Private Club Room" of the Arena? In the past people rumored and tinfoil-hated a lot where the "Little Ones" came from; and it was kind of a certainty that they were created and raised in the Cain Hospital. But now it seems that they were created in the "Private Club Room" of the Arena. The "gross questions" in this context are:
- Did Bill Roberts collect pregnant women to this place and modify them?
- Did Bill Roberts take women there and made them pregnant for his next generation of zombies?
- And/ or did Bill Roberts bring pregnant women, infants, and non-pregnant women to this place for different experiments on the "LIttle Ones"?

3) All this creates a certain curiosity about the locations of the Cain Hospital, when Kalani and Riley found this place with all the nails on the floor and the needle-device. What has happened there?

4) And assuming that Michael, Victor, and Datu draw the correct conclusions, where exactly does Bill Roberts new expriments and/ or breeding of new zombies currently? And what's "it", the end-product of this, gonna be?"

Best wishes!
Liam

My thoughts are that the women were already pregnant and near birth. The babies would need time to gestate. (Then again, the Inklings DID grow to adult-size quickly. So, it could still go either way.) If they need time to gestate AND Ink was starting a new batch, AND the arena was the type of house of horrors (that everyone is imagining but not explicitly saying) then the new batch of babies should be right coming about now. The Behemoth at the hospital could really be one of the even-larger Inklings like the one seen at Raydon Labs. It could be there guarding the place for Ink, who will also need a neonatal facility very soon. Also, who was it that said that they heard Inklings when Angel and Riley were in the arena?

[Merlin1274]

I'm going to lay down another one of my soon to fail predictions:

Michael is going to send KODI down the rabbit hole after Inky and the boys, to blow them all to smithereens.

Mark it down.

I forgot all about Kodi.. Yes he can send it down The Rabbit hole. But they need to know where it comes out at so that can cave the whole think in on them..

[Gnex]

So you are said there are 24 of them? Which can explain why the size were different among the group.

Well I just relistened, and I think Datu is just assuming that the mother and baby are 12 & 13........

But if you think about it................ All the "Little Ones" had tattoos are their arms..........

Unlucky #13 had a Tattoo on her Forehead......... Michael even mentions that the corpse is a "Shriveled up body of a woman" not a "Zombie" or "One of them" or any of the other ways they describ the infected..........

[Merlin1274]

Other thought:

I would not be surprised if Datu sooner or later combines all his mental mechanical Jedi strength in order to initiate his turning process because he simply cannot stand being constantly asked if he is ok in two minute intervals.

And of course, if he is going to turn, Vic and Michael will not be prepared for it, that is for sure.

That would be hell if they got caught off guard. Maybe he turns to fast for the syringe and he bites Victor and Vic uses the syringe on himself. He had one once and killed the Inkling with it.. Saul gave it to him in case he got bit.

[tonyhind86]

Did anyone else notice there wasn't a number #8 mentioned? I can't recall hearing it

[UndeadSweeper]

Well I just relistened, and I think Datu is just assuming that the mother and baby are 12 & 13........

But if you think about it................ All the "Little Ones" had tattoos are their arms..........

Unlucky #13 had a Tattoo on her Forehead......... Michael even mentions that the corpse is a "Shriveled up body of a woman" not a "Zombie" or "One of them" or any of the other ways they describ the infected..........

So Ink is just playing them now? Good no one taught him the numbered pigs in high school trick.

[Jannit]

Did anyone else notice there wasn't a number #8 mentioned? I can't recall hearing it

Kc addressed this earlier in the thread - it sounds like skipping 8 was convenient so they didn't have to turn the counting into sesame street time.

On the idea of the little ones and their mothers: my impression was that the mothers had the number on their foreheads and the babies ended up with a matching number on their arms. My assumption was that it was the mothers that were left and that the one baby had died in childbirth. Also, did anyone else get the impression the baby chewed/clawed its way out based on the description given? I'll have to go back and re-listen to the scene as I haven't had a chance to do that yet.

Another thought on the babies being turned pre-birth: I really hope that is the case as it boads better for Lizzy. If the mothers were getting all of the injections while pregnant in order to turn their baby into a little one, perhaps it means that Lizzy's baby is safe from that fate. (Unless that latent infection of Sauls goes and screws everything up... ) Then again, if they get turned after.... I hope more people show up to prevent Ink from playing Frankenstein with the new arrival.