I know Victor says he wanted to let everything settle down, but I guess I agree with NikVoodoo that there was never really was going to be a good time to tell people about Angel. I just thought maybe there were additional reasons for the secrecy, especially given our lack of knowledge of Victor's back story (if you don't believe he was an insurance salesman, which I think is still up for debate).
And yes, the chloroform comment was a reference to the acknowledged double meaning. Maybe I should have been clearer :-)
I agree. I am not sure how this is all going to go down, but my feeling is that Michael is really going to have to learn how to ask for help. He has shown us that he can, but trust and emotional connection are what I think he still needs. This includes both Pegs and Victor and the entire group of survivors he wants to lead/help.
I also want to say the audio "trick" with CJ going under listening to music fading into the pulsating tone was very well done.
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For Victor this knowledge really is power, but remember that Lizzy also has this knowledge as well, so it is not just him holding it back right now. however, given Vics reaction it may not be just that this is not the right time, but not the right time for him..
In a way there were a lot of subtle shifts of power in this episode, CJ needing Saul (even though she never said it, she was asking him for help), Michael and Pegs (he will have to chase her now if he wants anything) and Victor and Michael (I am not sure Victor is going to be content to just follow any more)
C.J. and Saul
It definitely sounded like there was something more than mere friendship going on between C.J. and Saul just before she went under the knife. We know about her attraction, but his "I'm not going anywhere" was kind of surprising. Would add an interesting twist if C.J. tries to kiss him again and is overseen by Lizzy...
Impending Power Struggle
Something has got to be done about the leadership of the Colony; this egalitarian honeymoon period isn't going to last long. But it's true that Michael has a bit too much baggage to be an effective leader of the Colony people (how many are there, anyway?). Still, what is the alternative? Burt isn't going to do it, and there is no suitable rival to Michael's claim to leadership...
...except C.J., who is ideally suited to be the 'mind' of the operation, particularly since her body is now compromised. She was always shit at execution, anyway. My guess is there is going to be a brief period of 'divided camps' with the Towerites / Irwinites / Colonites separating in their respective groups, then a town hall meeting of sorts to vote for a suitable leader, which should end up being C.J., if any of those dumbasses value their lives...
Saul... What's Up with the Music, dude?
What's up with Saul's shitty 1980's-era Buttrock? I would've taken him for a hip hop or R&B man... maybe 'smooth jazz' or something. But that shit was just horrible! [uh, and sorry Kc if I just insulted your cousin's band; understand you can't use licensed music in the podcast]. And did you guys catch the lyrics? Something about getting back at some 'holly roller'; could this have some deeper meaning in terms of the plot?
Actor's Recording Schedule
This point occurred to me from hearing Riley deliver only, what, 2 lines in this episode. So in terms of a recording schedule, I'm guessing that Kc would have had Claire Dodin recording these lines in a previous session... perhaps even during the recording of last season's finale. I doubt he would ask her to drive an hour or so all the way over to the studio to just give 2 lines and that's it. I'd be interested to hear how Kc coordinates his recording schedule in these instances... [if he doesn't answer here I'll just re-post in the 'Ask Him Yourself' thread]
Pegs is a HO
It seems that Muldoon has accidentally come across a picture of Pegs from back in her Boulder days:SPOILER
Angel--Revenge Motive?
I don't necessarily think that the discovery of Angel's execution is going to lead to a witch hunt of Scratch and the remaining Mallers. It just doesn't make any sense and would be a foolish risk at this point. I do think it's probably that we may get a partial glimpse into Scratch's current doings so the story doesn't go stale with the camera entirely on the Colony clean-up efforts.
Puck is Da MAN!
And finally, Puck deserves the 'Dean Martin Toast of Approval' for his 'Mad Men'-esque usage of the word "BROAD"...
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I listened to the episode at the gym. Yes, Victor is gaining more depth, he got a new facade, he is concerned about the whole colony situation. Very interesting.
And guys, come on, do not blame Michael for everything. He has not changed that much over the seasons. So it is feasible to adapt to such kind of behavior. However, he (maybe unwillingly) does what a leader has to do - which means that he sometimes has to serve as a lightning rod. Without him, he would not have a season 4.
I'm pretty sure they record multiple chapters. So when they had their recording session they would have done 37&38.
See? Pegs overreaction!!
Pegs is a HO
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