Chapter 41-2 Eye Of The Storm

[Witch_Doctor]

Great, now we know the Randy story, but what about the arena? Did Datu 'look away' from the hockey rink or did he she what happened or was about to happen to Samantha?

[Red Shirt]

Yea, I am a fan of the families and conspiracy. I that I also add that Angel has his ring with him. If it was simply something that tied him to organized crime, I do not think it is something to have with normal day to day activities. But, a birthrite from a new world order once it starts...

Here's a thought running in the vein of "identification." From Chapter 29, part 1/3 at 5:18:

Kimmet: "...but before we get to that point, I'm going to need your ID. I was told you brought it. Have it on ya?"
Michael: "Yeah. Here."
Kimmet: "Surprised you still had this. Good thing, because we don't have access to records."
Michael: "We were planning on coming here. It would have been stupid to leave it behind."

A hint?

If we are to go down the NWO conspiracy rabbit hole, it seems to me that like Michael's ID card, Angels ring could have served him as "identification" that granted him access to refuge.

[ZombieWildfire]

i'm going to assume that Randy's biting of Datu was completely intentional to the last detail.
(from what it sounds like...)
Randy (possibly) waits for the sidearms to be emptied
He calls Datu as 'his' - "Mine!"
Randy drags him away from the group, then bites him
He then orders Datu to "Go."
Datu doesn't move, so Randy pulls him along (Datu thinking he's taking him away)
Randy finally says "Leave" and jets, leaving Datu alone

to me, it sounds like Randy is trying to keep his 'turning' of Datu kinda secrect, or at least partially hidden from the other Zombies. Maybe this is some sort of 'cry for help'? from TOWTM? i don't know.

Keep in mind, the words spoken by Randy could also have been for his minion-Zeds. "mine", "go", "Leave", are all pretty basic and to the point commands.

the other side of this is that Randy purposefully bites Datu and tells him to "go", meaning go back into the colony, where he would turn and potentially ruin their safety. Perhaps Randy knew that Datu would be a slow turner, giving him a better chance to infiltrate the colony first before he turns. Or perhaps it is just Randy's bad luck that Datu is such a slow turner that they've all worked out what is going on and have a plan in place. Perhaps Randy knows that his bite will cause slow turning, which is why he wanted Datu for himself, or perhaps he couldn't trust the normal biters to not kill him entirely.

I actually really hope that this isn't the case, and that indeed Randy is in some way shape or form, on the side of the survivors. But its a possibility I suppose.

Which ever side he is on, it is clear that Randy retains a degree of humanity which many of the others don't seem to have. I guess we just have to wait and see what happens to Datu from now on.

I'm assuming the worst- its the only way to cope with the emotional roller coaster ride that is WA!

[ZombieWildfire]

I find the change in Puck's attitude interesting. Last time they seemed pissed at Michael for not blowing Datu's head off on the spot. Now he seems sympathetic and even volunteers to help draw his blood? People's mind and moods can change but it just seemed a pretty drastic swing of the pendulum. Maybe he just is seeing what Michael was feeling, or maybe he wants Datu around now after hearing CJ's story about the water situation and so he gets why we still need King Datu to finish the job. I don't know.

I'd go with the initial calls to kill Datu as being down to sheer fear and self-protection. Then, his attitude changes as the adrenaline wears off and he sees that they are not in immediate danger. I think it would be hard for anyone to witness Datu's situation and not be touched. I've been thinking "What would I do in that situation?" and the main answer I have come up with is "PANIC LOTS AND CRY MORE", whereas Datu, who is known for being a but hysterical in the past, is actually being quite stoical and brave about the whole thing. Puck and the others would pretty definitely be thinking 'there but for the grace of god go I', and that's got to be pretty sobering.

[7oddisdead]

the other side of this is that Randy purposefully bites Datu and tells him to "go", meaning go back into the colony, where he would turn and potentially ruin their safety. Perhaps Randy knew that Datu would be a slow turner, giving him a better chance to infiltrate the colony first before he turns. Or perhaps it is just Randy's bad luck that Datu is such a slow turner that they've all worked out what is going on and have a plan in place. Perhaps Randy knows that his bite will cause slow turning, which is why he wanted Datu for himself, or perhaps he couldn't trust the normal biters to not kill him entirely.

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randy= the shittiest henchmen ever.

i mean really, think about it. IF he is just doing "what the boss says" then how have any of his assignments been successful? bonered up the raydon run, didn't bring Tanya to the hospital, didn't get a slow turning datu to go back to the colony, i dunno....just makes him out to be a bad Scooby doo villain imo.

while i have no clue what side he may fall on, we do know inklings will kill regulars. so i stand behind the 'getting humans to kill inklings' thing. survival of the fittest, and if your not the fittest...be the most cunning.

[YetAnotherBloodyCheek]

randy= the shittiest henchmen ever.

i mean really, think about it. IF he is just doing "what the boss says" then how have any of his assignments been successful? bonered up the raydon run, didn't bring Tanya to the hospital, didn't get a slow turning datu to go back to the colony, i dunno....just makes him out to be a bad Scooby doo villain imo.

while i have no clue what side he may fall on, we do know inklings will kill regulars. so i stand behind the 'getting humans to kill inklings' thing. survival of the fittest, and if your not the fittest...be the most cunning.

Oh, I think you are too harsh on Randy. The truth is, people like us, we love henchmen. There would not be 23 / 24 (Never Say Never Again) / 25 (Casino Royale TV movie) bond films if there had been at least one proficient henchman. What about all the legions of storm troopers who are abysmal bad at shooting?

First and foremost, people tend to neglect the fact that most henchmen are just Joe Average type of guys.

[Unit]

So awesome haha

[tonyhind86]

I'm so far behind in this forum lately, its almost criminal!

Has anybody mentioned the theory yet that perhaps Randy bit Datu to save him from being attacked by the other biters?

[Witch_Doctor]

I'm so far behind in this forum lately, its almost criminal!

Has anybody mentioned the theory yet that perhaps Randy bit Datu to save him from being attacked by the other biters?

I don't remember anyone suggesting this theory, exactly, but it sounds intriguing. Do, go on.

[tonyhind86]

I don't remember anyone suggesting this theory, exactly, but it sounds intriguing. Do, go on.

I've seen the theory that Randy may have retained some of his humanity - either he felt sorry for Datu laying there crying, or perhaps he knew he would be a slow turner or even saw him as a non-threat. I'm glad we've only got 4 days till the next episode so we can hopefully get more answers.

I'm also hoping to see a confrontation between Ink and Randy so we can find out how their relationship dynamic functions. If my thinking is correct, I don't believe we've seen them in the same place at the same time.