Chapter 38-1

[Witch_Doctor]

Marunong kang mag tagalog? Ka galling. tang ina!

and having say that..If I hear Datu say " tang ina" I'll freak the heck out. LOL

Hindi, Naiintindihan ko ng kaunti Tagalog. Pimsluer is a sloooooooooooowwwwwwwww learning system. Fluent Tagalog in 30 days may a$$. I'm grateful that the Tagalog speakers here in Va. are kind and patient with me.

[Hanniekuma]

Hindi, Naiintindihan ko ng kaunti Tagalog. Pimsluer is a sloooooooooooowwwwwwwww learning system. Fluent Tagalog in 30 days may a$$. I'm grateful that the Tagalog speakers here in Va. are kind and patient with me.

wanna know something funny.....

English is the primary language in the homeland. I was taught English before Tagalog...and I still had that messed up off the boat accent. LOL It's gone now because I went to school here, but there are time I sound like Datu.

[Witch_Doctor]

Depending on the context, it could be the equivalent of "son" after saying something with feeling, it's a curse word...especially if said completely.." Putang ina mo"....so it can mean " son of a b" or " mofo" or it could add "EPIC" to a sentiment. So , if Datu were to get flustered and said the slang " tang ina" LOL

My parents would say it under their breath all the time after telling me to " take out the garbage...tangina mo" lol so I knew they were aggravated lol.

okay that's Flip 101 y'all.

OMG. The folk at UrbanDictionary.com really want to get someone's head smashed in.

tangina


Filipino slang for "Excuse me". It's use is most appropriate during meals.
Tangina everybody, I have an announcement...
Tangina waiter, is our food ready?

[Hanniekuma]

OMG. The folk at UrbanDictionary.com really want to get someone's head smashed in.

OH goodness...

[LiamKerrington]

Hello,

The 4 months before we can get to what Michael wants to do. We learned from the vote that between those who voted and those who weren't allowed to vote there are at least 70-80 people in the Colony if not more right? What work really needs to be done that the master planner CJ couldn't accomplish with 70-80 people in just a few weeks? Seems a ridiculous concept.

Welcome to the show and the forum! That alone earned you your first rep from me.

As for your question: Are there still 70-80 people in the Colony - auf the coup by Gatekeeper, the taking-over by the Mallers, the rebellion, and the last battle against the zombos I would expect less than 70-80 people. I may be wrong, though, because maybe I missed the mentioning of those numbers on the show.
edit: scbubba did the maths in the WND 58 thread; so consider my thoughts on the numbers as invalid; there may be like 80-100 peops around ... /edit

And even if there are so many people remaining, I think you should consider a few things:
-) a couple of the remaining people are more or less badly wounded, so during the first days (maybe even weeks depending on the type of bruises and trauma) they are not available for any work;
-) also not everyone might be suitable for heavy duties on fixing the fortifications; important fact: the area of the Colony is quite huge, and if CJ plans a similar solid fortification with what she did in Dunbar, "fixing" the Colony's walls is more than just filling the holes;
-) finally: besides the high priority tasks there are day to day activities like medical treatment, food-service, laundry service (Kelly, anyone?), garden duty etc., which need to be attended as well. So 80+ people are not around to work on the priority-shit only ... So 3-4 months didn't strike me as unlikely ...

Best wishes!
Liam

[7oddisdead]

if we are to consider the colony numbers at 70. (lets go with the lower number for the sake of argument). now, lets knock the numbers down by twenty percent based on injury. 56. now lets account for night watch on the walls/ gates, these would not be totally available during the proper working hours. a safe number here given size could be around 12 (two per post, six separate posts).44...those 44 would include CJ herself, Michael, glenn, Tanya, so drop that down to 40 non critical people.

so from tales from my father and brothers work in the concrete yard. it takes roughly 20 separate laborers the better part of a week and the proper equipment to form a bridge beam(think a concrete beam 80 feet long by 10 by10 square). yes. each is person/group of dudes is broken into a "chain" , and they do complete 7-10 beams per week...but that's beside the point. while the colonists are not building bridge beams, they are likely working on a similar type of project. while I do feel like 4 months is a bit of a stretch, I don't completely know that its that far from the truth.

[scbubba]

if we are to consider the colony numbers at 70. (lets go with the lower number for the sake of argument). now, lets knock the numbers down by twenty percent based on injury. 56. now lets account for night watch on the walls/ gates, these would not be totally available during the proper working hours. a safe number here given size could be around 12 (two per post, six separate posts).44...those 44 would include CJ herself, Michael, glenn, Tanya, so drop that down to 40 non critical people.

so from tales from my father and brothers work in the concrete yard. it takes roughly 20 separate laborers the better part of a week and the proper equipment to form a bridge beam(think a concrete beam 80 feet long by 10 by10 square). yes. each is person/group of dudes is broken into a "chain" , and they do complete 7-10 beams per week...but that's beside the point. while the colonists are not building bridge beams, they are likely working on a similar type of project. while I do feel like 4 months is a bit of a stretch, I don't completely know that its that far from the truth.

Good info. Seeing 7odd's break down of the numbers and how much a group of laborers can get done AND thinking back to how CJ has stuff laid out, I can just imagine her have a Gantt Chart of the Colony work items in her hands when overseeing the work outside. She is in full micro-mode project manager character.

Makes me wonder if she was a project manager or something similar for a general contractor in the LA area before Zday. Planning without actually doing, in a lot of cases.

Anyway, as for 4 months, she quickly cuts that in half when talking to Michael saying that they are making good progress. She may just be feeding him a line, though....

[Witch_Doctor]

It is storycraft. Let's say Skittles just happened to be a mental patient and say Lizzy was a therapist who studied in a mental hospital durring her phd program. Maybe Lizzy could get more out of Skittles since he might already feel comfortable with her. If Lizzy stays in the colony, I do not think skittles is going to show up any time soon asking to borrow a cup of sugar. So, the story would require Lizzy to be outside the colony for this to occur. Now for good measure, toss in a criminally insane dude covered with tattoos who seems to like tattooing little zombies so they grow up to be great big killing machines. Oh, and do not forget that this was done in a hospital called Canes and the plot driving the story is Fratracide; killing of a brother.

As long as i am here, I think Tanya has it wrong. The teeth are not serially replaced like a shark, those were the baby teeth; hyper accelerated growth, essentially growing from toddlers to over six feet tall in a only a few months.

Then, I get handed a tinfoil hat and I start listening for crows to have with my humble pie...

Taking away this ~~~>

You should wear this instead.
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The teeth are not serially replaced like a shark, those were the baby teeth; hyper accelerated growth, essentially growing from toddlers to over six feet tall in a only a few months.

Also, #2 more than likely had under developed breast due to sexual immaturity.
#5 is easily identifiable by the missing arm which shows that they grow from little to tall with in current time span.

I'm still stumped on TOWTM teaching them to talk or dressing them (seriously, they have modesty?). We know he didn't bother combing their hair. #2 had 6 inch dreads.

But don't forget Kelly, the Lawyer. Criminal cases anyone?

Since you won't be needing the tinfoil hat, let me wear it for a second. Maybe Hope was just thinking in terms of herself or maybe there is a broader meaning, but when she talks to Datu she says something to the effect of 'where ever I go it's just a matter of time.'
Her mom, redheaded Samantha was snatched by TOWTM's goons and delivered to him.
Red hair - green eyes. TOWTM has green eyes. So does Samantha.

I'm gonna stop here because the only other stuff I could come up with are Green eyes - envy - Cain envious of Able - Cain Hospital - Able = Can do - Datu can do anything...
OK, back to bed I go.

[thisonegirl]

Since you won't be needing the tinfoil hat, let me wear it for a second. Maybe Hope was just thinking in terms of herself or maybe there is a broader meaning, but when she talks to Datu she says something to the effect of 'where ever I go it's just a matter of time.'
Her mom, redheaded Samantha was snatched by TOWTM's goons and delivered to him.
Red hair - green eyes. TOWTM has green eyes. So does Samantha.

I'm gonna stop here because the only other stuff I could come up with are Green eyes - envy - Cain envious of Able - Cain Hospital - Able = Can do - Datu can do anything...
OK, back to bed I go.

Mind. Blown!

[Grognaurd]

I think 70 is way way low. Marcus tells Michael there are hundreds at the colony. Was Marcus lying? Maybe. Have they literally lost hundreds of people in the coups? Greater than 75% casualties?

Me, I am in the much more sinister camp. The colony treated people like crap, CJ did also and the mallers kept slaves. I think they have continued those ways. There maybe 80+ of the ruling class, but I think there are still a lot more peasants available to say jobs done.

Saul and victor find a maller and (s)he has a bunch of IDs. I do not think they are fake IDs. I think they literally are IDs of the slaves owned by that maller.

As for how much does CJ know. I am sure we have all had Screamers for bosses. They micromanage everything. A weld may be placed at five feet with a tolerance of plus or minus three inches. Maybe you are about to lock it down right at five, but just to to be dick and to put on a leadership show the boss will scream bloody murder about how that will never hold and have you move it to five feet one inch.

Some leadership is about showmanship and power. CJ may be awesome smart and/or maybe she is just putting on a good show. If Michael does not know shit about welding, he might think she really does know her shit. However, She brags about her proficiency with a sword and is a total spaz.

Like I said, maybe she is awesome, but leadership is planning and execution. Eisenhower taught me Planning is everything, but THE Plan means nothing. One must have to be able to drop the plan and instantly go to B and onto C right in the middle of the operation.

I do not think CJ can do that. Period. Saul cannot plan shit, but he can spontaneously react to adverse situations and recover. The .50 cal won't take the whole nine yards. Screw it, feed it one round at a time. CJ would cry about it and blame the equipment. Saul gets the job done.

Train your people well and give them autonomy to react spontaneously. Teach them to fear you and watch your house of cards collapse the minute your plan makes first contact as they clog up the chain of command requesting new orders.

Datu FIX! vs. That weld will never hold!

Really, CJ? Really? Maybe she is right, but the character who knows her best, Saul, says "... because you know everything..." when he is operating as a combat medic and knows she is bleeding out.