Chapter 39-2 Chemical Reactions

[LiamKerrington]

I am very glad that Cabbage Patch is back and gives us a lot of strategic insight. I started to miss marked maps and pretty amazing thoughts and commetnary on them. Really awesome.

What we have are a couple of things with the Colonists - the kind of "huge" Colony, Dunbar as a second major location, and 'between' those at least 16 (if not more) safespots. Ignoring the safespots, we have a kind of 'similar' situation like what we had with Irwin and Boulder. Were the events there a foreshadowing about what might happen to The Colony and Dunbar? I don't hope it. But it wouldn't be the first time that Kc would repeat certain "themes".

Another thing that strikes me about this local situation is that the Colonists "thin out their attention". The more locations they keep an eye on or they use for any kind of mission, the more complicated it will be to stay focussed. In #39-1 we learned that them zombs seem to be active in areas not well known to Michael's crew; and for whatever reason them zombs seem to carry around stuff - most likely with a purpose. This allows a lot of guessing and assuming that them zombs have establish a network of locations as well. Yes, true: their number of activities and encounters with the Colonists has decreased a lot. But why? Because they die, because they are tired of them Colonists, because they have started to focus on wild as well as gone wild domesticated animals? I don't think any of these things might be true; them zombs are up to something. And with the Colonists having lost focus (in the meaning of having spread their attention to too many locations at the same time) the zombs will take the advantage they create right now.

That's it for now. Later I will provide some more thoughts on #39-2 ...

Best wishes!
Liam

[Merlin1274]

Doom.. The Greatest Video Game Series of All Time.. Movie was ok but not what I would have thought a Doom movie should be..

But that being said.. It does have me thinking of the similarities..

I still hold too Both are Host carriers but will not turn themselves.. But Baby Saul maybe the new breed of Humans to have the ability to fight the Zombies, well if we want to stay in the world that would be similar to Doom..

Back to the Topic at hand about a post of the colony expansion.. They have come a long way in a short time.. Which would lead to the others bitching about CJ and not wanting to deal with her.. She has to be cracking one hell of a whip.. No wonder Michael would prefer to stay outside the walls. But part of me just can't help to wonder why he has accepted her leadership more so then anyone else since the beginning of the story.. Granted she is a capable person. But I just can not see him and his tag along gang of Comedians just taking orders from her and worry about her wanting the truck back.. Its not like the .50 cal belongs to her. They brought those with them.

[FunkyDung]

But Baby Saul maybe the new breed of Humans to have the ability to fight the Zombies

So Baby Tink is Blade?

[UndeadSweeper]

CJ has pushed a major expansion of the Colony. They've occupied, "an area of commercial buildings and homes to the south" that included another park, and access to a creekbed.

Wow, now that is detailed. No one cross Cabbage Patch or you have a detail map to your house . Are they making an Attack on Titan type setup? An inner gate that people can come into if the expanded area is overrun.

[scbubba]

Another thing that strikes me about this local situation is that the Colonists "thin out their attention". The more locations they keep an eye on or they use for any kind of mission, the more complicated it will be to stay focussed. In #39-1 we learned that them zombs seem to be active in areas not well known to Michael's crew; and for whatever reason them zombs seem to carry around stuff - most likely with a purpose. This allows a lot of guessing and assuming that them zombs have establish a network of locations as well. Yes, true: their number of activities and encounters with the Colonists has decreased a lot. But why? Because they die, because they are tired of them Colonists, because they have started to focus on wild as well as gone wild domesticated animals? I don't think any of these things might be true; them zombs are up to something. And with the Colonists having lost focus (in the meaning of having spread their attention to too many locations at the same time) the zombs will take the advantage they create right now.

That's it for now. Later I will provide some more thoughts on #39-2 ...

Best wishes!
Liam

Your post has me thinking back a little. Ever since Season 4 started and we got past the 1st few days after the big fight ending Season 3, I've wondered about the population of the zombies. A couple of things pop into my head.

1) I think that there are a lot fewer of the normals after the Battle of the Colony. So there are fewer zombies to encounter in general.
2) General TOWTM has taken Team Zombie into hiding. He has established a base of operations outside of the observation areas of Team Human. I think Team Z has been doing recon and surveillance on Team Human for quite a while - even before the Battle of the Colony. This realization is sort of sparked in Michael when he mentions (in Ch36) that they seem to be attacked when they gather in large numbers.

So, it doesn't seem to be too much of a stretch that the zombies have been actively avoiding detection by the humans. They have plenty of room in the greater LA area without going underground or something similar.

But the idea of them having "safe houses" or observation posts near the Colony or Dunbar is a very interesting thought. And it all plays into Michael's statement of how foolish and optimistic they were before the events of ch39. Team Human has been seriously underestimating their opposition, methinks....

[FunkyDung]

Bringing back formalin from another thread, I just thought it might be worth noting (in light of Tanya's tests), that formalin is used in fixation, i.e., tissue preservation. In particular, it can be used in a procedure know as formalin-fixed paraffin embedding (FFPE). Once embedded in wax, tissues can be sliced thinly for microscopic examination. One can also extract DNA samples by dissolving away the wax.

http://www.mobio.com/blog/2012/07/20...on-the-basics/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21901596
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_fo...sue_processing
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=...ed=0CCwQgQMwAA

Seems to me that someone other than the known good guys is doing some serious medical research.

One more link, this one to a paper called "Human keratin diseases":

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/1...133.x/abstract

[Footbutt]

PG-13 Post:

something that i keep reminding myself of is that Saul slept with/impregnated Lizzy BEFORE he was shot.

now, the time frame from when the are able to "do it" next is after they are reunited at the Colony, right? when she's several months pregnant?
Saul was chained up after he was shot, Lizzy left the tower, and then they don't see each other until the raid on the Colony.

now, they could have "done it" from then until now, i know, but the baby in-utero is highly likely NOT to be infected. i understand about umbilical cord stuff and transfer of mom/baby, but i dont' think it has to be a given that the Saul Jr. is necessarily infected/half-infected.

[UndeadSweeper]

I've been thinking about the Colony expansion, and it has me worried about that location's safety.

For starters, they've, at least, doubled the size of the Colony. If they did this by expanding the walls to surround the new territory then they have a lot more wall to guard now, and the maximum distance between sections has grown enormously. There aren't any more Colonists to guard the walls, and the only heavy weapons they have are 3 gun trucks (2 x 50 cal, 1 x minigun) and Datu's "Mata Gun" prototype. That's a huge potential problem.

Add to that the un-even quality of the existing perimeter walls, much of which consists of the existing buildings with their windows and doors sealed. The only description I recall of the rest of the wall was of cars piled up to block the cross streets and parking lot entrances. As far as we know the only area that had a serious wall, with guard towers, was the main gate, which now seems to be in the middle of the Colony! There are ways the new area could have been enclosed so that the main gate stayed the same, but only by making the perimeter walls even longer and harder to defend.

Don't get me wrong, I think expanding the Colony was a great achievement, and a testament to amazing leadership by CJ. I just worry that they may have bitten off more than they can chew.

But wouldn't including the police stations, make better defense position?

[Kc]

Good ep, Kc. I have noticed that the eps are . . . quieter. I have to max my speakers to hear the dialogue this season. Not a complaint. Well . . . kind of a complaint. But not really.

We keep mixing at the same level, but I'll keep that in mind for the next one. We might bump it a little.

[LiamKerrington]

Hello.

...So, it doesn't seem to be too much of a stretch that the zombies have been actively avoiding detection by the humans. They have plenty of room in the greater LA area without going underground or something similar.

Yeah. Absolutely. And it is quite likely that many of the solitary beasts are not affiliated with Ink's group.

But the idea of them having "safe houses" or observation posts near the Colony or Dunbar is a very interesting thought. And it all plays into Michael's statement of how foolish and optimistic they were before the events of ch39. Team Human has been seriously underestimating their opposition, methinks....

That's exactly the main reason why I establish the idea of having very well organized zombs which have a network of subsurface channels, hiding places, their own set of "outposts" etc. And with Randy carrying around chemical stuff this gets more than less likely. Why the big EFF would a (smart) zomb run around with this crazy stuff? Only, because there is a reason behind it ... .

Best wishes!
Liam