Wnd #57

[scbubba]

I think its a permanent split, CJ and Michael are both way to stubborn and neither will give way. Saul and Victor are gone and CJ made it clear that this is non-negotiable.

It's non-negotiable to CJ at the moment. She's pretty heated and emotional and thinks she has Michael (and by extension the military folks) and Tanya. Once everyone else starts getting out of Dodge (well, the Colony) and she sees what it costs her, CJ may well "soften" her position. This might happen almost immediately or it might take a zombie attack/scare to change her mind.

That is, of course, assuming CJ even survives. The banishment of Saul & Victor is purely her deal. No reason for the rest of the Colony folks to honor it if CJ isn't around.... <cough cough> <limp limp> <bleed bleed> <die die>

[SmokeyZombified]

It's non-negotiable to CJ at the moment. She's pretty heated and emotional and thinks she has Michael (and by extension the military folks) and Tanya. Once everyone else starts getting out of Dodge (well, the Colony) and she sees what it costs her, CJ may well "soften" her position. This might happen almost immediately or it might take a zombie attack/scare to change her mind.

That is, of course, assuming CJ even survives. The banishment of Saul & Victor is purely her deal. No reason for the rest of the Colony folks to honor it if CJ isn't around.... <cough cough> <limp limp> <bleed bleed> <die die>

At this point I'm almost worried than even if she loses Michael and crew, she still wont change Her position. She's way to emotionally unstable. Not to mention the Colony folks blame Mikey and Victor and their whole crew for all of the Colonies issues, which is ignorant and pointless but to them I guarantee CJ's word is law and even if CJ dies they will find another colonist to replace her. They have already excluded Mike and Friends from their voting process, it's obvious they don't consider them apart of their little colony. It will all come to bite them in the ass soon enough me thinks

[HardKor]

The more I think about it, the more worried I am that Riley and Burt aren't going to come away from their hunt "un-Scratched." As much as I want to hear Riley get her hands on Scratch and "shove [Angel's ring] down her throat," I still can't imagine Scratch going down until there's a confrontation between her and Pegs. I'm really getting worried that Riley and Burt's hunt is going to end in disaster.
So someone please tell me I'm wrong here, because I really want to be wrong.

[Hoff4D]

Gonna TRY to summarize my thoughts from 37-3 concisely.

CJ maintained that the conversation stay between them, and I think for the most part, it will. They will tell those who need-to-know: Michael, Tanya, Lizzy.

Saul, Victor, Riley, and Burt will all go to Dunbar. This will give Burt/Riley the chance to get out and hunt down ol' scarface. Saul will MAKE Lizzy/Tanya stay since it has the medical facilities. Michael will play the same card CJ is playing. CJ maintains control to the colony but behind closed doors is working with Michael. Michael will maintain his position under CJ, but behind closed doors maintain his contact at Dunbar. The 4 of them leaving to Dunbar will be sold to the rest of the crowd as "Recon" or the like. But in reality, Michael will be slowly stockpiling/plotting an offensive from Dunbar on his visits. Once the baby is born/safe, he will execute plan B, and evacuate all towerites/Iwinites to Dunbar....Which will conveniently be just before Ink attacks the colony. As Ink makes his move on the colony, the people who were moved to Dunbar will come up from behind (a la Lord of the Rings) and put Ink on a two-front battle in the grandiose conclusion to the series.

In between all this, Saul/Victor will be doing what Michael says in setting up the offensive, while Riley/Burt are hunting down Mallers, who now (having CJs Swat Van and it's content) have the maps to all the safe houses and are held up in one, and Riley/Burt gotta find which one...

[SmokeyZombified]

The more I think about it, the more worried I am that Riley and Burt aren't going to come away from their hunt "un-Scratched." As much as I want to hear Riley get her hands on Scratch and "shove [Angel's ring] down her throat," I still can't imagine Scratch going down until there's a confrontation between her and Pegs. I'm really getting worried that Riley and Burt's hunt is going to end in disaster.
So someone please tell me I'm wrong here, because I really want to be wrong.

I think Pegs has become irrelevant at this point, there is far more hatred between Burt/Riley and Scratch. The Pegs deal seems to be way in the past, Im sure Scratch still holds a grudge against Her, but no one cares. This has now become Burt and Riley's fight to finish

[Hoff4D]

Gonna TRY to summarize my thoughts from 37-3 concisely.

CJ maintained that the conversation stay between them, and I think for the most part, it will. They will tell those who need-to-know: Michael, Tanya, Lizzy.

Saul, Victor, Riley, and Burt will all go to Dunbar. This will give Burt/Riley the chance to get out and hunt down ol' scarface. Saul will MAKE Lizzy/Tanya stay since it has the medical facilities. Michael will play the same card CJ is playing. CJ maintains control to the colony but behind closed doors is working with Michael. Michael will maintain his position under CJ, but behind closed doors maintain his contact at Dunbar. The 4 of them leaving to Dunbar will be sold to the rest of the crowd as "Recon" or the like. But in reality, Michael will be slowly stockpiling/plotting an offensive from Dunbar on his visits. Once the baby is born/safe, he will execute plan B, and evacuate all towerites/Iwinites to Dunbar....Which will conveniently be just before Ink attacks the colony. As Ink makes his move on the colony, the people who were moved to Dunbar will come up from behind (a la Lord of the Rings) and put Ink on a two-front battle in the grandiose conclusion to the series.

In between all this, Saul/Victor will be doing what Michael says in setting up the offensive, while Riley/Burt are hunting down Mallers, who now (having CJs Swat Van and it's content) have the maps to all the safe houses and are held up in one, and Riley/Burt gotta find which one...

Oh, and since no one said it, but we're all thinking it, now that Riley has the ring, when she finally gets to scratch we will FINALLY get some closure on "The Family"...and I ain't talkin about no Robert De Niro movie....

Scratch goes on some soliloquy as she's about to be struck down about how Riley could never understand what she HAD to do because of the family...etc

[UndeadSweeper]

Hi Nik,

Can you do a PSA on what a lie is?

[Cabbage Patch]

Mr. Whiskers and Lady need to go on an adventure

I'm thinking cross-over with Rex, Zombie Slayer!

[Cabbage Patch]

Oh, and since no one said it, but we're all thinking it, now that Riley has the ring, when she finally gets to scratch we will FINALLY get some closure on "The Family"...and I ain't talkin about no Robert De Niro movie....

Scratch goes on some soliloquy as she's about to be struck down about how Riley could never understand what she HAD to do because of the family...etc

Or someone could just ask Lizzy.

[Hoff4D]

Or someone could just ask Lizzy.

I meant as to the relation of Angel in the family, from my memory, Scratch never let out why/how Angel was involved, and what exactly the family was/is....just that he was in. Or did I blank out for a minute somewhere?