Chapter 31 Family Ties part 1

[Witch_Doctor]

Oh and am I the opnly one who believes it could have been the doctor who was shot, Scratch did say something to the woman doing Lizzy's scan about not wanting to end up like the doctor who knew how to use the machine.

KC confirmed that it was Angel who was shot and killed.

[nikvoodoo]

KC confirmed that it was Angel who was shot and killed.

Not to mention, the doctor had lines after the shot was fired.

[Witch_Doctor]

I dont see that there's any proof or need for the cousin to be in the here and now. Its not Durai, evidenced by the fact that Durai isn't dead. It may be Angel's father, i guess, if you fiddle with the timings enough. The point is, the cousin is dead, Angel is dead, and its all a part of the backstory, not the survival story.

Just to be clear, she does not say that the cousin is dead. We can assume that it is LIKELY that the cousin is dead or turned. As a work of fiction, it is noteworthy that Scratch emphasizes that she has to live with a reminder everyday. This isn't necessarily evidence to support Durai being the cousin but evidence to suggest that, by way of innuendo, this could be one of many possibilities.
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[7oddisdead]

To re-iterate...

For all who talk of the saving of Lizzie and...burt. Burts rescue depends on the turning and sympathy of bricks. Aside from him, none of our crew know Burt lives...so while we may speculate of lizzies Stockholm syndrome...we had better hope she's pulling a bit of reverse psychology on him...and bricks is the one with Stockholm syndrome. Otherwise a rescue may be for a party of two. Not three

[Nedjema]

I think even if Lizzy has Stockholm syndrome, the second she finds about Burt and what they've been doing to him, it won't matter anymore. Similar for the second she lays eyes on Saul.

[Zombiephyllic]

My question is, what is Durai so urgent about?

I was wondering that too. The only reason I can see they still want to find anyone form the tower is to avenge Latch by killing Pegs. And Durai seems to want dispose of Burt and move on to "more important matters". I'm curious about what they're working on. I was surprised when they launched a pretty effective offensive on the Arena, so I've got to think they're planning something else. Is it zombie related or something different?

[wh33t]

I was wondering that too. The only reason I can see they still want to find anyone form the tower is to avenge Latch by killing Pegs. And Durai seems to want dispose of Burt and move on to "more important matters". I'm curious about what they're working on. I was surprised when they launched a pretty effective offensive on the Arena, so I've got to think they're planning something else. Is it zombie related or something different?

Right! I've been so caught up with other tid bits I completely forgot Durai's haste in the process. Hrm! I say it has something to do with tracking down INK. We've heard Scratch mention in regards to the little ones (when they were actually little) that "this is just the beginning, and Durai understands that"... The prisoners know a hell of a lot more than we give them credit for me thinks.

[VEE]

I was trying to put myself in Lizzies shoes earlier, just to see how I would feel in her situation. She has been with the colony/mallers now for longer than she was at the tower hasn’t she? They have provided her everything she needs in her current condition, she even says herself that she wouldn’t want to be out there in her present state. She has a bodyguard, not only to ensure that she behaves, but it also serves to protect her form others there. She has medical care, is fed, watered and doesn’t have to struggle at all.

I’m a parent, although a dad and not a mum, and I’m sure that her number one priority is the child inside her, regardless of who the father is, and I can’t see her heading off with a rescue party. Not when it puts her and her unborn child (or possibly baby by then) in so much risk. In the early months parents tend to treat their babies as though they are made of china and the slightest little bump could shatter them, a daring escape won’t factor in at all as she would be putting her child in danger.

Now circumstances could change so that an escape is the better option, which would mean that the child would have to be in imminent danger, by which I don’t mean, say, Scratch adopting the baby as her own, as the child would not be in danger in that circumstance (and though heartbreaking, I think a parent might allow it in the short term as long as the child was safe), so the child would have to be threatened before Lizzie would strap it on her back and go running off.

These are just thoughts of course but they make some sense to me and I get a feeling that Saul might be bitterly disappointed a little way down the line.

[Cabbage Patch]

I was trying to put myself in Lizzies shoes earlier, just to see how I would feel in her situation. She has been with the colony/mallers now for longer than she was at the tower hasn’t she? They have provided her everything she needs in her current condition, she even says herself that she wouldn’t want to be out there in her present state. She has a bodyguard, not only to ensure that she behaves, but it also serves to protect her form others there. She has medical care, is fed, watered and doesn’t have to struggle at all.

...I get a feeling that Saul might be bitterly disappointed a little way down the line.

That makes perfect sense, but I think there are two factors that could change those calculations.

First, there are tantalizing hints that all is not well in the Colony. Water is rationed and there is concern about the food supply, where previously supplies of both seemed good. The treatment of the locals appears to be brutal, including killing key people like the only doctor. Lizzy cannot want her son growing up in the Family to be Scratch's protege.

Second, Saul has Dunbar Apartments to offer as a refuge (we hope), which is safe, well supplied, and only lacks the Colony's medical facilities. And, unbeknownst to everyone, is the prospect of a trip to Boulder, with hospitals staffed by doctors.

[7oddisdead]

would it be out of the realm of reason for saul to somehow incite a riot within the colony? i mean, the primary reason the colony fell to the mallers was lack of ammo correct? surely Cj is sitting on a pretty good stockpile. matching rounds to weapons from memory could be a bit tricky but what the hell.... its just that as i sit here thinking about it just now..could we feasibly see dunbar full again? and how would CJ feel about such a thing..not sure she has that many blindfolds.

jeez, think of the irony of that...a bunch of prisoners...cooling a riot. in a town/prison-like fortress. thats just too good not to happen