Origins of the Little Ones

[Eviebae]

well, RAID is a neurotoxin...WAIT, that's it, that's what caused the zombies--an over abundance of RAID! heh, solved it.

That story about the ants says they bring back their dead and bury them in the dump outside to protect against contamination. That's not why they bring back their dead, that's why they bury them outside instead of inside. It doesn't answer what the value is in them bringing their dead back from outside the nest. Plus, if they are bringing food inside and storing it, why isn't that prone to contamination? I wonder why they bring them back...to escape detection...misdirection?

[7oddisdead]

How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?

The world may never know

that was the first article I found in that moment..really, I don't know that I have ever seen WHY ants do that. best explanation given has simply been the oleic acid given off by a dead ant is like a homing beacon for the rest of the nest/colony, which that article did state..though not very well...for that matter, why do they stack their dead like cordwood?..apparently some colonies of ants create interesting shapes from piles of dead ants...hell if I know, ants are alien to me...but the similarities are there...for sure

[Tielurrdee]

So I may be digging but I was re listining today to some episodes, and as we all know KC is very good at hiding small hints and details. Well here's a little stretch for you tin cap wearing folks. Ch2,3-3 at 15:40 angel compliments sals work on the hummer and refers to it as a "little behemoth" huh huh. It just kind of jumped out at me when I was listening. The word modified was in there too. So I'm just going to keep with the crazy theories of modifying zombies as a possibility in my little brain. I hope I'm in the proper section I'm tired .

[Bullethead]

So I may be digging but I was re listining today to some episodes, and as we all know KC is very good at hiding small hints and details. Well here's a little stretch for you tin cap wearing folks. Ch2,3-3 at 15:40 angel compliments sals work on the hummer and refers to it as a "little behemoth" huh huh. It just kind of jumped out at me when I was listening. The word modified was in there too. So I'm just going to keep with the crazy theories of modifying zombies as a possibility in my little brain. I hope I'm in the proper section I'm tired .

What the hell im bored, i'll bite...I'd like to know where your going with this when you wake up. What are you hinting at? Maybe the heroes modifying the zombies or something?

[Tielurrdee]

What the hell im bored, i'll bite...I'd like to know where your going with this when you wake up. What are you hinting at? Maybe the heroes modifying the zombies or something?

Oh god no I'm just saying I think that maybe it was a hint thrown in the story that maybe behemoths can be "little" it's been assumed by other characters that behemoths couldn't even be human. (I'm thinking that's because of their size or grotesqueness) I just wanted to stir the pot that is the theory that the little ones become behomoths. And possibly that they were modified to be that way but not by our main characters. KC knows the base line for the story and his characters which im sure includes the zombies. Could he of left this clue so small here? That's just my 2 cents and just a little something I may have caught that I thought some of the hardcore believers of that theory would like to know

[Bullethead]

ahh ok i gotcha, good catch.

Personally I'd like to think they don't grow to become bohemoths. But they very well may. I mean we haven't seen one in forever and we very rarely see the little ones so i guess it is pretty plausible.

[Robzombie]

Well the Behemoths have stretch marks which indicate rapid growth, which indicate again a change from something to something else. Now is it a change from human to behemoth or are there changes in between that we've seen already. The little ones seem to have gone from literally little, fast moviing zombies, to tall skinny zombies.

Personally I think that either,
1) people are affected differently, and your development has but only a few possible outcomes. Ie you become a behemoth, a skinny one, a standard zombie, a runner, etc...(I think at best this may be partly correct but very short of being a complete answer);
2) everyone affected bacame the standard zombie, with variations in skill/intelligence based on your previous mental capacity (Radon labs zombie-very smart, or had their brains wired differently, Ink-schizophrenic);

I think both are happening, but does not answer fully to my liking where the specialized zombies come from.

Perhaps specialized zombies are the result of different virus strains from the outset or a single virus that had quickly mutated into those different strains producing different zombies. Or these specialists are the result of genetic engineering either previous to the outbreak or result from the opportunity provided by the outbreak. Although I really don't think that Ink in his previous life was some billionaire geneticist conducting secret experiments nor was anyone else.
I'm thinking the supply of specialist zombies came from Cain General Hospital and Cain Mental Hospital, otherwise known as The Devils Workshop, and Ink has just been "smart" enough to know how to co-ordinate and lead them. I think the specialist zombies are just a "natural" result of the virus and all Ink has been doing is sharpening some of their nails and inking them, why?? I have no frigin clue....

[Eviebae]

Although I really don't think that Ink in his previous life was some billionaire geneticist conducting secret experiments nor was anyone else.

Ink seems to be behind the specialized zomboids; I wonder if he's behind the zomboids period (his tattoos suggest this but who knows) which would explain how he knows how to control the modifications. It's worth noting that none of the characters has noticed any of the other zombies having number tattoos.

I wonder if the fingernails/fingers Riley et al crunched underfoot were shed or sharpened and the why and how of it all.

Whatever caused the mutations, he seems to have a very fine-tuned ability to specialize the results. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think he was already mutated when he was arrested.

[7oddisdead]

Ink seems to be behind the specialized zomboids; I wonder if he's behind the zomboids period (his tattoos suggest this but who knows) which would explain how he knows how to control the modifications. It's worth noting that none of the characters has noticed any of the other zombies having number tattoos.

I wonder if the fingernails/fingers Riley et al crunched underfoot were shed or sharpened and the why and how of it all.

Whatever caused the mutations, he seems to have a very fine-tuned ability to specialize the results. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I think he was already mutated when he was arrested.

ya know..i was actually thinking about the whole fingernails thing today at work. we've been told of the nail clippings found at the hospital, but i've been thinking of just how long would the nails have to be for them to be "sharpened" to any type of useful legth? i try to imagine human nails, the length needed to shape into points..the structual strength of the nail itself...etc. and i cant help but wonder if perhaps kalanis throwaway line of "somebody been trimming a great dane"(paraphrase) may be a bit closer to the truth. i for one question if these little ones really have that much "human" still remaining...

and i love the idea of ink's pre-outbreak mutation..makes sense to me

[Eviebae]

How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop?

The world may never know

that was the first article I found in that moment..really, I don't know that I have ever seen WHY ants do that. best explanation given has simply been the oleic acid given off by a dead ant is like a homing beacon for the rest of the nest/colony, which that article did state..though not very well...for that matter, why do they stack their dead like cordwood?..apparently some colonies of ants create interesting shapes from piles of dead ants...hell if I know, ants are alien to me...but the similarities are there...for sure

Not a complaint towards you but towards the science writer. I agree whole heartedly. I assume it's supposed to be either a nod or red herring towards gene splicing.