Chapter 41-3 Eye of the Storm

[Gnex]

Perhaps he has a future in politics if writing doesn't pan out.

WAYLAND 2016!!!! HOPE(not that one) and CHANGE(not that one either)!!!!

[Gooer]

Why do Kc's answers always lead to more questions?

i have to agree there...

[FunkyDung]

WAYLAND 2016!!!! HOPE(not that one) and CHANGE(not that one either)!!!!

I was picturing something more along the lines of a zombified KC with "ZED" under the picture.

[Merlin1274]

I saw a Commercial just now while watching Supernatural for Shampoo with Keratin in it.. I laughed out load and the wife was like what. Told her she would not understand...

[Elisa]

Damn now I gotta listen!!!

[Red Shirt]

They say he killed his Girlfriend, The guy he was cheating with, and that guys family.......

Now why kill the family??? The Girl and Guy I get...... but the Family??? A fit of rage??? or did he know something about the boyfriend and his family???

That is a very mafioso, Wise Guy, The Family way of meting out justice for betrayal. Cold retribution that sends the message that, "I am not someone to be fucked with."

The thing is, remember back to when they got back from the court house raid with the case file on Bill Roberts. It was either Tanya or Kelly that said with a verbal shiver "ugh, the things he did to those people..." What things? This implies that Roberts did more than just kill them. I think that he was well on his way to experimenting with "live" subjects well before Z-Day, perhaps even more than a year before.

[7oddisdead]

Good question. If you want to get technical, in this case, it appears in two separate entries by two different people. Datu's account is the first one you hear. Michael's is the second.

by this rationale, we can only assume each time that this is what datu said. I don't buy the imperfect narrator theory(see below for that). so datu's experience during the attack is different after the attack. perhaps hearing what was said, just translated after the fact. (like that time in high school pre Spanish class when I ate at a place called "el aseo")

Ugh, this Imperfect narration gives me a head ache. Datu is the only one who survived the attack ( that we know is writing ) and has to write down what happened. Datu or Michael could record their conversation, so maybe Michael writes down something different. unless Datu records it differently? Does Datu record it differently on purpose? By accident?

I do not think KC has broken with everything being recorded in a journal...

I don't buy the imperfect narrator theory. to think that some aspects of the story we cannot rely on the person telling us the story to accurately tell us what happened is completely infuriating. if kc came forward and said something like "certain scenes are not entirely accurate because x,y, and z...plus Kelly screwed up and put some datu info into one of Riley's entries"...yea, I'd be done here. theres already a cornucopia of information here...so much so that we are LOST as to whats gonna happen next. I get the occasional thing like the angel line when lizzy was being kicked out, and the recent Kelly ad-lib on michaels entry. I can even overlook the fact that scratch has several parts that could not be "journalized" (at least not yet). but the idea that we cannot at least 95% rely on the info in the entries? nope...no sir, no way.

I personally dont think that there is a zombie language for the simple fact that Saul and Tanya have also been bitten, now you could be correct but I think Saul was closer to turning then Tanya, all the fevers and not waking up for a while. And would they be able to understand Zombies better like the Datu theory. But then again the the reason I think its not possible is becuase INK or the man in the PIN STRIPE suit talked as well to the people in the tower. They understood him clearly enough to where they thought he was human.
WA to the END!

refresh my memory, when have saul or Tanya been in a situation where they would have the chance to hear a smart one/inkling (not including bill)....speak. not being a dick, genuinely asking. I cant think of one.

That is a very mafioso, Wise Guy, The Family way of meting out justice for betrayal. Cold retribution that sends the message that, "I am not someone to be fucked with."

The thing is, remember back to when they got back from the court house raid with the case file on Bill Roberts. It was either Tanya or Kelly that said with a verbal shiver "ugh, the things he did to those people..." What things? This implies that Roberts did more than just kill them. I think that he was well on his way to experimenting with "live" subjects well before Z-Day, perhaps even more than a year before.

personally I picture the scene at the end of "Hannibal" with bill feeding the boyfriend parts of his own brain.

which brings me back to that.
perhaps he poked around with their inferior frontal cortex, looking for what sort of reaction he could get within the broca's area of the brain. sure, the job was messy...and they all were gonna die anyways. but what if from that he gleamed what the reaction to change that could take place during z day and how to best deal with it(his tattoos)? think of it this way, as a child learning new words and new symbols is a wonderful experience. the human mind as it develops is constantly seeking new imput. children constantly question things(any parents on here are familiar with the word "WHY?") now, imagine all your language skills are completely eradicated...but all this new info starts bombarding you. things you generally had overlooked, everyday symbols, unidentifiable markings, laguages that before you could not understand...now they seem to make sense.

to me, despite the gross-ness of the w/a zombies (ya know, eating people, smelling like poo, etc) I think this would be a crazy awesome experience. sort of like taking a whole slew of people from all the countries of the world and throwing them into one place. letting them figure out how to communicate with each other and learn to live together...hmm...wait, this sounds familiar....

'merica
7id

[Grognaurd]

I guess this gets at what is this medium? When we listen to the events, is KC providing the sound of what happened and where he cannot paint the picture with sound he overlays narration or is KC providing a soundscape from a master journal pieced together from multiple accounts?

I have been in the camp of hardcore journal. Someone observes, comprehends, remembers, records. This section has thrown me for a loop because of the importance and ambiguity of the soundscape. Datu seems to have survived the attack, buried his friends, recorded the events in his journal and then spoken to Michael about the events.

There does appear to be a cognitive component to the outbreak. Maybe the smarter a person is the harder the contagion has to work to rewrite neural pathways. Maybe Datu is stuck in the middle. I think it is critical to remember that Datu has two wounds. A scratch which I think of as a little one attack. The little one is surprisingly killed, because they do not have a gun truck I am sure they thought the humans would be easy pickings. I get the impression that the little one is killed and then Randy bites Datu.

if the little one was not killed, I do not think it would have let Randy bite Datu.

[Footbutt]

but did the Little One scratch Datu? i don't remember thinking that happened, just that Randy bit him.
but if that's the case, then did Randy bite Datu to "preserve" him?
which strain of z-stuff is Datu infected with? Little One stuff or Smart One stuff?

the "detective" part of me wants the next chapter to pick up with Puck and crew. i NEED to know what's at Bill Roberts' place!!!

and i think Gnex nailed it as well.

[Gnex]

I guess this gets at what is this medium? When we listen to the events, is KC providing the sound of what happened and where he cannot paint the picture with sound he overlays narration or is KC providing a soundscape from a master journal pieced together from multiple accounts?

I have been in the camp of hardcore journal. Someone observes, comprehends, remembers, records. This section has thrown me for a loop because of the importance and ambiguity of the soundscape. Datu seems to have survived the attack, buried his friends, recorded the events in his journal and then spoken to Michael about the events.

There does appear to be a cognitive component to the outbreak. Maybe the smarter a person is the harder the contagion has to work to rewrite neural pathways. Maybe Datu is stuck in the middle. I think it is critical to remember that Datu has two wounds. A scratch which I think of as a little one attack. The little one is surprisingly killed, because they do not have a gun truck I am sure they thought the humans would be easy pickings. I get the impression that the little one is killed and then Randy bites Datu.

if the little one was not killed, I do not think it would have let Randy bite Datu.

I don't buy the imperfect narrator theory. to think that some aspects of the story we cannot rely on the person telling us the story to accurately tell us what happened is completely infuriating. if kc came forward and said something like "certain scenes are not entirely accurate because x,y, and z...plus Kelly screwed up and put some datu info into one of Riley's entries"...yea, I'd be done here. theres already a cornucopia of information here...so much so that we are LOST as to whats gonna happen next. I get the occasional thing like the angel line when lizzy was being kicked out, and the recent Kelly ad-lib on michaels entry. I can even overlook the fact that scratch has several parts that could not be "journalized" (at least not yet). but the idea that we cannot at least 95% rely on the info in the entries? nope...no sir, no way.

'merica
7id

I don't know if I can buy the imperfect narrator either...... I mean if we can't trust KC who can we trust?!?!?




Also, the way I picture the attack is like this.......

1-2 zombies, 1 little one, and Randy...... The little one is shot by the Jay/Datu with the Mata gun, the other zombies are attacking Datu when Randy tells them "Mine" and makes them get away....... I think somewhere in the middle of all that Datu gets scratched up pretty bad, and then bitten by Randy.