Chapter 40-1 Monsters

[Gnex]

I have a few reasons why I don't buy the whole "Ink didn't do it, he's just a nice guy that likes long walks on zombie beach and reading books" theory..........

#1 - The explosion at Ground Zero. Either Ink is extremely lucky, or something there was planned..... There just so happens to be an explosion? and it just so happens to be the day you are being transferred?

#2 - Ground Zero seems to be a residental neighborhood. I would suggest that either A) something under the ground blew up.... or B) Something above ground blew up with enough force to crack the ground. With Ink being paranoid it could be that he planned or planted something to blow up.

#3 - I could be wrong on this one, but just throwing it out there. But Do we know that any other Zombies other than Ink are able to lead/command the others??? What I mean is, there are points in the story where Ink will Roar/Howl to call the zombies into action...... Can other zombies do this as well or just Ink??

#4 - If Ink is the only one that can command the zombies, then he was somewhere nearby when Michael, Saul, and Angel were at the military base. This was not long after the explosion, and Ink already knew he could just control the zombie hordes??? Seems like this information would have taken a little while to figure out........ unless you already knew what was going to happen.


Just a few ideas.....

[LiamKerrington]

Hi there,

I have a few reasons why I don't buy the whole "Ink didn't do it, he's just a nice guy that likes long walks on zombie beach and reading books" theory..........

I really hope that none here thinks Dr. William Isaac Robberts was a nice guy ...

#1 - The explosion at Ground Zero. Either Ink is extremely lucky, or something there was planned..... There just so happens to be an explosion? and it just so happens to be the day you are being transferred?

We only know for certain that there are cracks in the ground at Ground Zero. But we have not a single idea about what caused it. It seems to be quite certain that it must have been a powerful source, since some cracks go deep, and they spread very far.
I guess it is something from beneath the surface. If it was a source above ground, buildings should not have simply crashed, but be blown away at least almost as far as the deeper cracks went. And I have no recollection from the tellings of Saul or Victor that they saw something like that.
But in either case - something big exploding under the surface or at surface-level or even above the surface: a source creating such big cracks in the ground needs either one guy who was not under surveillance, a group of crazy maniacs/ terrorists, or a facility of whatever type gone *booom*.
At the time of the explosion Ink already was in custody. So he couldn't have started the bomb - or he had built it with a timer set to a certain time ... Could be, couldn't be. We really have not a single clue allowing any assumptions right now.

But one major reason speaks against Ink having done this in Inglewood: why were hotspot in many areas around the Pacific and at least on the Northern American continent? Ink? Really?? OK, granted: We have not a single idea about what started the zombocalypse in other areas. But to me it would be kind of strange that everywhere in the world zombies jump out of nowhere, while in LA Ink created his regional special zombie-party at the same time ... edit: So the question is: Is Ink big enough to establish the zombocalypse, or did the zombocalypse have special on him for whatever reason allowing him to organize his special LA-zombie-party? /edit

#2 - Ground Zero seems to be a residental neighborhood. I would suggest that either A) something under the ground blew up.... or B) Something above ground blew up with enough force to crack the ground. With Ink being paranoid it could be that he planned or planted something to blow up.

see above ...

#3 - I could be wrong on this one, but just throwing it out there. But Do we know that any other Zombies other than Ink are able to lead/command the others??? What I mean is, there are points in the story where Ink will Roar/Howl to call the zombies into action...... Can other zombies do this as well or just Ink??

That's a very fine question. And I don't remember seeing something like that except - maybe with some interpretation - for one situation: Randy leading a small group of Zeehs kidnapping Tanya ...
And from ther reports on the Smart Ones I would assume some level of control over zeehs as well ... But that's kind of a stretch, because we really have no solid information about that - yet.

#4 - If Ink is the only one that can command the zombies, then he was somewhere nearby when Michael, Saul, and Angel were at the military base. This was not long after the explosion, and Ink already knew he could just control the zombie hordes??? Seems like this information would have taken a little while to figure out........ unless you already knew what was going to happen.

When Michael, Angel, and Saul were at the military base riots were all over LA and in other cities - so not only near the military base in LA. This picture is supported by all the news we heard during the first episodes of WA and later by Kimmet's report.
As for Ink controlling other zombies: My bet would be that he learned to control other zeehs pretty quickly. And when he realized that and established a group of hunters for him - his "pack of zeehs, if you like -, he also started to build his own small zombie-population or zombie-group of "survivors". After all: We're Alive is a Story of Survival. And them zombos are just one other group of "human bodies" striving for survival - just with different attitudes and means ...

Just a few ideas.....

And damn fine questions and ideas you raise here. Thank you for sharing ...

Best wishes!
Liam

[UndeadSweeper]

#3 - I could be wrong on this one, but just throwing it out there. But Do we know that any other Zombies other than Ink are able to lead/command the others??? What I mean is, there are points in the story where Ink will Roar/Howl to call the zombies into action...... Can other zombies do this as well or just Ink??

I think the Behemoth can summom other zombies but I think all smart ones can have some sway over weak ones. I thinking back to the Major at the army base on the first eps and Randy seem to have some control too.

[Footbutt]

yeah, Liam, Randy was leading the "Massed Together" group when he dragged away Tanya.

anyway... i was bored at work and started looking at Fault Lines in CA. Apparently southern Ohio had a VERY minor earthquake, so that was my catalyst.

there's a fault line called the "Newport-Inglewood Fault". i'm sure this a common knowledge, and i'm probably rehashing a bunch of stuff...

but let me take you for a little wild ride:
i know religious-ish stuff is usually not handled with kid-gloves, but consider the Explosion on May 8th, Z-Day. The cracks in Inglewood could be along the Fault Line, and i'm going to assume that it was a release of compressed gas/toxin that burst through the Earth... from Hell??!?!!!!? what? it's either all Natural/biological or there's some random spiritual element involved. Since there's been next-to-none talk about God and religion and stuff, i'm assuming that the former is the winner for this plot line.
i feel there's no Human interaction that's the cause of the outbreak, it was all through the Elements of Nature. ....but i still don't wanna rule out the idea that all Hell has literally been unleashed! :tinfoil

[UndeadSweeper]

yeah, Liam, Randy was leading the "Massed Together" group when he dragged away Tanya.

anyway... i was bored at work and started looking at Fault Lines in CA. Apparently southern Ohio had a VERY minor earthquake, so that was my catalyst.

there's a fault line called the "Newport-Inglewood Fault". i'm sure this a common knowledge, and i'm probably rehashing a bunch of stuff...

but let me take you for a little wild ride:
i know religious-ish stuff is usually not handled with kid-gloves, but consider the Explosion on May 8th, Z-Day. The cracks in Inglewood could be along the Fault Line, and i'm going to assume that it was a release of compressed gas/toxin that burst through the Earth... from Hell??!?!!!!? what? it's either all Natural/biological or there's some random spiritual element involved. Since there's been next-to-none talk about God and religion and stuff, i'm assuming that the former is the winner for this plot line.
i feel there's no Human interaction that's the cause of the outbreak, it was all through the Elements of Nature. ....but i still don't wanna rule out the idea that all Hell has literally been unleashed! :tinfoil

Hmm, Good theory. A natural event could cause all this here and around the world. And I'm also think that Ink isn't the source of the break and just took advance of the event. The only thing I can't shake off is Kanti said that he saw pretty bad ones at Hawaii. Who would have made those?

[LiamKerrington]

yeah, Liam, Randy was leading the "Massed Together" group when he dragged away Tanya.

anyway... i was bored at work and started looking at Fault Lines in CA. Apparently southern Ohio had a VERY minor earthquake, so that was my catalyst.

there's a fault line called the "Newport-Inglewood Fault". i'm sure this a common knowledge, and i'm probably rehashing a bunch of stuff...

but let me take you for a little wild ride:
i know religious-ish stuff is usually not handled with kid-gloves, but consider the Explosion on May 8th, Z-Day. The cracks in Inglewood could be along the Fault Line, and i'm going to assume that it was a release of compressed gas/toxin that burst through the Earth... from Hell??!?!!!!? what? it's either all Natural/biological or there's some random spiritual element involved. Since there's been next-to-none talk about God and religion and stuff, i'm assuming that the former is the winner for this plot line.
i feel there's no Human interaction that's the cause of the outbreak, it was all through the Elements of Nature. ....but i still don't wanna rule out the idea that all Hell has literally been unleashed! :tinfoil

Yeah. I follow you down that rollercoaster ... Or down that road ...
"Hell" or any other "religious"-fueled delusion could be considered as kind of a motivation for Ink to become "zeeh"-leader ... All the symbols covering him or being part of his background seem to point at such a madness. Such a "Hell"-theme would be similar to the "Doom"-theme of the game as well as the movie ... But I guess Kc is not fueled by that idea ...

For whatever strange reason I think of "Pacific Rim" right now ... I need to stop writing here, or my madness strikes ...

Best wishes!
Liam

[kent17]

I keep flip flopping in my head whether Ink started this or not. In the least he must have known something was going down, otherwise why the tattoos all of the sudden, shortly before Z-Day? That is too coincidental to ignore.

If he had a hand in starting it then how is it apparently almost simultaneously a global event? If it was isolated to ground zero then how did it spread over seas so fast? Air traffic would have been shutdown pretty damn quick.

The other thing that has been bugging me for what seems like forever is Michael and Randy. Thee must be some clue or important bit of information that will come out when we hear that story, because every time Michael is about to tell us he gets interrupted. Damn you Kc so much suspense

[Footbutt]

I keep flip flopping in my head whether Ink started this or not. In the least he must have known something was going down, otherwise why the tattoos all of the sudden, shortly before Z-Day? That is too coincidental to ignore.

i also wonder how his tatoos were "inflicted' upon him. he had to have been pretty drugged up for Cohen to do his artwork on Bill Roberts--if they were never voluntary.
i'm leaning towards the idea that this "Cohen" gave Ink his tatoos out of cult-ish motivations. Roberts was unstable. throw in a shaky biochemist past and a freshly tatooed epidermis and you have the makings of a VERY recognizable figure with the crazies to enhance the Zombie Army.

so yeah, as someone else put it, Cohen has some 'splainin' ta do.
whether that's Duncan Cohen or whomever.

[Gnex]

I keep flip flopping in my head whether Ink started this or not. In the least he must have known something was going down, otherwise why the tattoos all of the sudden, shortly before Z-Day? That is too coincidental to ignore.

If he had a hand in starting it then how is it apparently almost simultaneously a global event? If it was isolated to ground zero then how did it spread over seas so fast? Air traffic would have been shutdown pretty damn quick.

The other thing that has been bugging me for what seems like forever is Michael and Randy. Thee must be some clue or important bit of information that will come out when we hear that story, because every time Michael is about to tell us he gets interrupted. Damn you Kc so much suspense

I'm thinking Ink had some kind of connection to the family....... and the family has the connection to the explosions/zombies/etc/etc........... This would give us the reason why there was multiple explosion in various areas...... and then Ink knew something was being planned and did something to prevent himself from turning.

This would also explain why so many members of the family were unharmed, and could also explain why Ink's insanity plea was accepted....... Maybe the family paid for some expensive fancy lawyers to represent him.......

[YetAnotherBloodyCheek]

I'm thinking Ink had some kind of connection to the family....... and the family has the connection to the explosions/zombies/etc/etc........... This would give us the reason why there was multiple explosion in various areas...... and then Ink knew something was being planned and did something to prevent himself from turning.

This would also explain why so many members of the family were unharmed, and could also explain why Ink's insanity plea was accepted....... Maybe the family paid for some expensive fancy lawyers to represent him.......

I guess that the whole revelation will definitely include much more background on Durai. I mean, this character is a mystery to me, he must have been more than a inertial damper for Scratch's megalomanic plans storywise.