Chapter 40-1 Monsters

[skankyfish]

Not sure if this will lead someone else to anything. But I was wondering if there was any significance to the name of the guy Ink paid off...... Kowen? Cowan?? Cohen??? not sure on the spelling, but it just seemed weird to me that Kelly took the time to fully explain that little bit.....

Maybe a clue??

I heard it as Cohen. My friend was wondering this, and she suggested that maybe his first name is...Randy? KC doesn't seem to do anything by accident, so if it wasn't important who did the tattoos surely it would have been "his cell mate" or "another inmate". Naming him seems...intentional.

[UndeadSweeper]

I wondered where they got all their information from? *cough* newspapers *cough*

Clear eyes? I think it all the meds he was probably on that kept him from completely turning. If Tanya and Saul are highly resistance to the virus why can other through other means?

#7 ? I think they are now thinning the herd. There probably not enough "food" to go around. And lone wolf are probably mindless change other to more zombie. P(Ink) has order that all lone wolf be destroy to prevent this.

[Grognaurd]

Not sure if this will lead someone else to anything. But I was wondering if there was any significance to the name of the guy Ink paid off...... Kowen? Cowan?? Cohen??? not sure on the spelling, but it just seemed weird to me that Kelly took the time to fully explain that little bit.....

Maybe a clue??

I thought about it, I did not come up with anything. My guess is there will be a first name / last name link that we have not parsed yet.

Duncan Cohen has a nice ring to it...

[skankyfish]

Clear eyes? I think it all the meds he was probably on that kept him from completely turning. If Tanya and Saul are highly resistance to the virus why can other through other means?

I'm not sure how I feel about his meds keeping him from turning. If it's an infection, then Saul being saved by antibiotics makes sense, but anti-psychotic meds of the kind you'd use in schizophrenia don't. Anti-psychotic drugs have a wide range of targets in the brain; they're largely dopamine antagonists but some also affect serotonin, histamine, and adrenergic pathways. *Maybe* at a stretch they wouldn't stop him turning, but might help preserve some brain function, but even that doesn't feel right to me.

Tl;dr, I don't think it's Bill's schizophrenia meds that stopped him from turning completely.

[Gnex]

I thought about it, I did not come up with anything. My guess is there will be a first name / last name link that we have not parsed yet.

Duncan Cohen has a nice ring to it...

I can agree with this...... whatever gets us more skittles!

[Witch_Doctor]

As far as if Ink has turned or not, Skittles says that he's not a person anymore. This makes me wonder a couple of things.
1) Could there have been other things smuggled into the jail inside of those ball point pens? Kelly says that the authorities were investigating how the stuff was smuggled in. What stuff, ink pens? There seemed to be a lot of concern over ink pens. (The article says that the tattoos were inflicted, as if he was inked against his will. But, why would he pay someone to do it if he didn't want it done?) I think that maybe chemicals from his lab were in the ink pens.

2) If the pens contained performance enhancement drugs (perhaps to make himself a bad ass in jail or to increase his strength in order to jail break himself) then this would explain why there was police tape on his office door on Z-day. Remember, he committed the crimes in Santa Monica. Why would his office be a crime seen? Of course, they could have suspected that he may have left evidence there; murder weapon, bloody glove, photos of his wife and Jack Tripper. Also, the article says that it was to be determined if the tattooing would delay the hearing. I doubt that jail house tattoos are so uncommon that it would hold up a court appearance. But, the simplest explanation would be that the police tape was put there just prior to Z-day because they were investigating how chemicals were removed from there and smuggled into the jail.

3) Perhaps the drugs affected the way the Z-cooties work, limiting the effect on how, and/or how much he turns. He realized this and started to experiment with the chemicals and zombies. Maybe even ground zero.
Examples:

• Some chemicals used on regular zombies increases their speed, others give them jumping abilities, others give the size and strength.
• The chemicals are either used on those turned by biters and/or those turned at ground zero. Remember, Kalani said that CJ's convoy people said that the strange creatures came from there.
• The super mod zombies, i.e. runners, jumpers behemoths... are still dumb zombies. So he decides to start fresh with unturned babies.
• He experiments on infecting people and/or babies after giving them his Marion Jones Juice or Lance Armstrong Elixir. As opposed to drugging already infected people.
• They turn, but retain some intelligence and their eye color. JUST LIKE HIM!

[Witch_Doctor]

If they double-check the mental facility or the courthouse, they may find some sort of transcripts from interviews, or even a video of him being studied by a psychiatrist. The fact that he can communicate with the other biters and has a level of super-human abilities does imply that he is, in some shape or form, turned. Then again, his ability to speak, write and his intelligence suggests otherwise.

This would bring Lizzy's PhD into the fold.

[UndeadSweeper]

I'm not sure how I feel about his meds keeping him from turning. If it's an infection, then Saul being saved by antibiotics makes sense, but anti-psychotic meds of the kind you'd use in schizophrenia don't. Anti-psychotic drugs have a wide range of targets in the brain; they're largely dopamine antagonists but some also affect serotonin, histamine, and adrenergic pathways. *Maybe* at a stretch they wouldn't stop him turning, but might help preserve some brain function, but even that doesn't feel right to me.

Tl;dr, I don't think it's Bill's schizophrenia meds that stopped him from turning completely.

Wait, you said something that could be the reason why the schizophrenia meds kept him sane in a way. When one turn they go in to rage mode, right? But anti-psychotic drugs keep a person calm and sedated. So when he changed he wouldn't gone in to standard zombie mode.

[ZombieWildfire]

I can agree with this...... whatever gets us more skittles!

If Skittles were the cell mate, would he really refer to Ink as "The coloured one" though?

[Witch_Doctor]

Anyone pick up the back & forth between Carl and Robbins? Robbins even refers to Carl by his first name, as if he's he is no longer acknowledging Carl as a soldier anymore. There is quite a bit of tension building up between these two.