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    Quote Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor View Post

    "...the video of that man-thing in the suit, I showed you, coming in the front door. We had a system where you could be buzzed in, and unlock the entrance. Duncan it in. I'm GUESSING on accident..."
    -CJ, Chapter 27 Part 2, The Thirty-First.

    CJ sounds dubious of Duncan/Skittles accidentally letting Ink in the Tower. I always wondered if this was a hint or a red herring. What really adds to this is that Duncan/Skittles (Dittles) is spared by the attacking zombies. He hints to this in Chapter 27 and in Chapter 17/3.
    My take: Red Herring.
    Reason - at that time, when metabolic endproducts hit the ventilators CJ was very paranoid herself, because more and more Dunbarians went missing; CJ assumed they went away and thus betrayed her, so she had quite a strong pessimism about anyone - except for Sean.
    Another reason why I think Skittles had no reason to let Ink in: Skittles hat no idea about what hell would break loose the moment he allowed Ink to enter. As the audience we learned that Ink appeared "normal", if you looked at him through a camera-system. Paul and Lizzy fell for it; why would this be any different from Skittles/ Duncan? Also keep in mind: If Duncan/ Skittles had kind of a personal connection to William/ Bill, why would he have freaked out after the fall of Dunbar and not tried to get in touch with Ink again? Instead of this he tried to keep as much distance from him and smart ones as possible; Skittles was quite "confident" in claiming Ink to be the worst zomb in LA ...
    The only thing I would buy is that Duncan recognized Ink as someone he knew without knowing, though, that Ink was leading a zomb-army. So, if CJ wonders, if Skittles let him in on purpose, then this wuld be true only in the case that Skittles wanted only him in - and not a zombie-horde. No ... Let's keep it simple. For as long as we have no confirmation about any relation between Skit and Ink, as long we are not well adviced to assume too many things. So I keep it as I introduced it: red herring ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor View Post

    "...the video of that man-thing in the suit, I showed you, coming in the front door. We had a system where you could be buzzed in, and unlock the entrance. Duncan it in. I'm GUESSING on accident..."
    -CJ, Chapter 27 Part 2, The Thirty-First.

    CJ sounds dubious of Duncan/Skittles accidentally letting Ink in the Tower. I always wondered if this was a hint or a red herring. What really adds to this is that Duncan/Skittles (Dittles) is spared by the attacking zombies. He hints to this in Chapter 27 and in Chapter 17/3.
    Perhaps spared because of a prior connection????

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    Quote Originally Posted by UndeadSweeper View Post
    I thought Ducan letting Ink in was a mistake. Was he distract by someone and he didn't look at the screen at the time.
    Recall that we are getting a second hand account, well, two second hand accounts from Kalani's journal and from CJ's story. We don't have a 1st person perspective from Duncan. Maybe Duncan was like "There's my bro! I'll let him in." And then when the world came crashing down around him with a zombie horde, he just snapped cuz he let the wolf in amongst the sheep....
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiamKerrington View Post
    My take: Red Herring.
    Reason - at that time, when metabolic endproducts hit the ventilators CJ was very paranoid herself, because more and more Dunbarians went missing; CJ assumed they went away and thus betrayed her, so she had quite a strong pessimism about anyone - except for Sean.
    Another reason why I think Skittles had no reason to let Ink in: Skittles hat no idea about what hell would break loose the moment he allowed Ink to enter. As the audience we learned that Ink appeared "normal", if you looked at him through a camera-system. Paul and Lizzy fell for it; why would this be any different from Skittles/ Duncan? Also keep in mind: If Duncan/ Skittles had kind of a personal connection to William/ Bill, why would he have freaked out after the fall of Dunbar and not tried to get in touch with Ink again? Instead of this he tried to keep as much distance from him and smart ones as possible; Skittles was quite "confident" in claiming Ink to be the worst zomb in LA ...
    The only thing I would buy is that Duncan recognized Ink as someone he knew without knowing, though, that Ink was leading a zomb-army. So, if CJ wonders, if Skittles let him in on purpose, then this wuld be true only in the case that Skittles wanted only him in - and not a zombie-horde. No ... Let's keep it simple. For as long as we have no confirmation about any relation between Skit and Ink, as long we are not well adviced to assume too many things. So I keep it as I introduced it: red herring ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiamKerrington View Post
    My take: Red Herring.
    Reason - at that time, when metabolic endproducts hit the ventilators CJ was very paranoid herself, because more and more Dunbarians went missing; CJ assumed they went away and thus betrayed her, so she had quite a strong pessimism about anyone - except for Sean.
    Another reason why I think Skittles had no reason to let Ink in: Skittles hat no idea about what hell would break loose the moment he allowed Ink to enter. As the audience we learned that Ink appeared "normal", if you looked at him through a camera-system. Paul and Lizzy fell for it; why would this be any different from Skittles/ Duncan? Also keep in mind: If Duncan/ Skittles had kind of a personal connection to William/ Bill, why would he have freaked out after the fall of Dunbar and not tried to get in touch with Ink again? Instead of this he tried to keep as much distance from him and smart ones as possible; Skittles was quite "confident" in claiming Ink to be the worst zomb in LA ...
    The only thing I would buy is that Duncan recognized Ink as someone he knew without knowing, though, that Ink was leading a zomb-army. So, if CJ wonders, if Skittles let him in on purpose, then this wuld be true only in the case that Skittles wanted only him in - and not a zombie-horde. No ... Let's keep it simple. For as long as we have no confirmation about any relation between Skit and Ink, as long we are not well adviced to assume too many things. So I keep it as I introduced it: red herring ...
    I think he was trying to say that Ink used Skittles.... Not that Ink and Skittles were two masterminds working together.....

    It would kinda be like if your best friend showed up at your house..... and you let him in and he killed everyone inside....... and then you lost it and went crazy..... you wouldn't go looking for him later to be friends again..... he would scare you to death and you would want to be as far away as possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiamKerrington View Post
    My take: Red Herring.
    Reason - at that time, when metabolic endproducts hit the ventilators
    I'm going to have to go back and catalog all of your euphemisms for TSHTF. You had me thinking that you were going to write another Sciency article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnex View Post
    I think he was trying to say that Ink used Skittles.... Not that Ink and Skittles were two masterminds working together.....

    It would kinda be like if your best friend showed up at your house..... and you let him in and he killed everyone inside....... and then you lost it and went crazy..... you wouldn't go looking for him later to be friends again..... he would scare you to death and you would want to be as far away as possible.
    Yep, this is what I was getting at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor View Post
    Yep, this is what I was getting at.
    This would also explain Skittles commenting that "He's not like that anymore" or whatever he said to Angel, Riley and Datu.....

    Skittles is letting them know that Ink isn't the same person that he knew before, that he has changed....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gnex View Post
    This would also explain Skittles commenting that "He's not like that anymore" or whatever he said to Angel, Riley and Datu.....

    Skittles is letting them know that Ink isn't the same person that he knew before, that he has changed....
    Ok, that one slipped my mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Witch_Doctor View Post
    Yep, this is what I was getting at.
    Yeah, well ... Sorry for maybe having misunderstood you ...
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