Chapter 39-3 Chemical Reactions

[Footbutt]

What I find very fascinating is the leap in deduction that Micheal & co. make in assuming that they found something important involving the zombies. Zombies, in which the smartest, up to this point, have only been clever enough to duck when shot at, utter one-word sentences, and set Wile E. Coyote like traps by laying trackers on top of paper-covered holes in the ground. By stumbling onto a zombie carrying a bag of chemicals, they entertain the idea that the stammering, grunting, brutish, man eating, pants pooping Zs are doing something with the chemicals, even though, the normal people can't even pronounce the words on the labels.

"pants pooping" - why, oh why did it take me so long to think of the reason why the zombies smelled like poo was this simple fact? Gah! Everybody poops. Even TOWTM.

do Smart Ones crap their pants too? or do they have enough smarts not to shart?

[Witch_Doctor]

Odd, that no one can find a newspaper or something in written, right?

It probably hasn't occurred for them to look for one yet. The s.h.t.f. so quickly that I doubt anything went to print before the presses were stopped. They wouldn't likely look for anything on the day before while fighting for life & limb. But they might start looking at News Papers NOW. That just might be a better and more readily available source of info on INK, than the TiVo idea.
Someone should get KC to pass this on to Micheal.

[UndeadSweeper]

But then, why would anyone of the characters be looking yet?

The characters haven't made any connections between these things YET. Robbins and Puck recognized something about the name William Roberts. Saul almost remembered something about the name Raydon Labs. Maybe we are getting close to having a few of these things that have been dangling out there come together as the characters start seeing what we, the omniscient listeners, have been seeing....

Then I bet somebody wants a newspaper or another DVR'ed news show....

Just a bit odd, with all the runs, for food or ammo, no one pick up a newspaper or a mag with info on this. I would think even CJ would seen something in a newspapers article about Raydon Labs.

[UndeadSweeper]

It probably hasn't occurred for them to look for one yet. The s.h.t.f. so quickly that I doubt anything went to print before the presses were stopped. They wouldn't likely look for anything on the day before while fighting for life & limb. But they might start looking at News Papers NOW. That just might be a better and more readily available source of info on INK, than the TiVo idea.
Someone should get KC to pass this on to Micheal.

I was think at least the court case or Raydon would at least been in the paper for a while. Even a pic of Roberts.

[Gnex]

Good, but the only problem is that Raydon Labs isn't fill with gases like Englewood. How would the "smart one" changed at the lab? CJ said even the turned avoid going toward the gases, nothing could live in it. Another question isn't the Randy raid of Raydon Labs recently?

Since there are no gases around Raydon Labs the "smart one" would change there just like they change anywhere else. Unless I am confused about the location of Raydon Labs, but I thought it was outside the Haze area.

The major difference between my theory and scbubba's is Did the police kick in the door to William I Roberts locked Office and then put up police tape(and then when Randy showed up he just walked in) Or did the police search the office, padlock the door and put up tape(and then Randy used super zombie strength to bust the door open)

Generally police tape is not that hard to bypass, you just lift it up and move under it.

Either way I think I am leaning to the Bill Roberts and William I Roberts are two different people and Bill Roberts ratted out William towards the end of his trial.

[Gnex]

But then, why would anyone of the characters be looking yet?

The characters haven't made any connections between these things YET. Robbins and Puck recognized something about the name William Roberts. Saul almost remembered something about the name Raydon Labs. Maybe we are getting close to having a few of these things that have been dangling out there come together as the characters start seeing what we, the omniscient listeners, have been seeing....

Then I bet somebody wants a newspaper or another DVR'ed news show....

Also..... How far in the timeline are we since they watched that initial DVR recording in the tower???? I mean that was a long... long.... time ago. And I think somewhere between zombies trying to eat you, best friends dying, people trying to kill you, etc, etc...... you probably tend to forget a little 10 minute DVR recording........ Now that all the pieces are falling into place though, I'm sure the lightbulb will click on someone very very soon.

[bigsteve1911]

My simple explanantion for what is going on:

Keratin-18 is used as a marker of circulating tumour cells in the body. So, zombies are having increased rate of mutations resulting in tumours. Follistatin suppresses tumours, so their leader (W. I. Roberts, of course!) is supplying them with follistatin to reduce the rate of tumours.

It may also be possible that follistatin and zombie cancer is unrelated; and follistatin is used to increase muscle growth in zombies.

OK, I have to admit that although my monkey theory is flawless - this is VERY good.

#notworthy

[UndeadSweeper]

OK, I have to admit that although my monkey theory is flawless - this is VERY good.

#notworthy

Could the zombies be feeding on the human to "recover" Keratin-18? Since the living, naturally create it right?

[Unit]

Also..... How far in the timeline are we since they watched that initial DVR recording in the tower???? I mean that was a long... long.... time ago. And I think somewhere between zombies trying to eat you, best friends dying, people trying to kill you, etc, etc...... you probably tend to forget a little 10 minute DVR recording........ Now that all the pieces are falling into place though, I'm sure the lightbulb will click on someone very very soon.

Also at the time they were watching the DVR recording they weren't watching it for the trial info, they were watching the breaking news of the outbreak I believe. So yeah, a year later of all that action remembering some random background detail that they weren't even listening to, probably not. That part was for us the listeners. Now I need to go back and re-listen to that episode.

[scbubba]

I was think at least the court case or Raydon would at least been in the paper for a while. Even a pic of Roberts.

Well, the Bill Roberts story on the news was "breaking news" so it wouldn't be in the paper until the next day at the earliest. If the police went to Raydon Labs the day before, or the day of, Zday, then it might not have hit the papers yet (due to the lag in publishing newspapers in general).

Also, the story timeline for Chapter 39 episodes is mere hours between the run-in with Randy and the escape from Raydon Labs. They asked Kelly to do some looking in what was in CJ's library before they went. She wouldn't have any reason to check on Bill Roberts since she was looking for Raydon. And it ain't Google indexed, so she would be skimming stuff for content. Easy to miss stuff.

We have Saul at Dunbar that has info on Raydon Labs, but hasn't remembered it yet. We have a few people at Dunbar that heard about Bill/Ink from the DVR but they haven't heard the name William I Roberts yet (except Michael and it didn't ring a bell for him yet). I think we are building to some character "A ha!" moments that will give us more info.

So, there may be info about both Bill/William Roberts and Raydon Labs in Dunbar - it's just gonna take some time to find it. And they might need Burt to shed light on Raydon since he seemed to know something about it to be able to comment on the "Level 3" badge way back when.

Kc!!!!!!!!! (screamed like "Khaaaaannnnnn!!!!" in Capt Kirk fashion)