Chapter 33-2 Red Winter

[Triggernator]

How do you fire .3 rounds?

M134 fires 2,000 to 6,000 rounds per minute....

[Penguine]

Were they shooting at her head? I dont think so. Seems like although everyone knows headers kill they still continue to shoot center mass. Now I can understand doing that if shooting center mass is knocking them down, but now that zombie girl is bullet resistant why not just start making all head shots? Sure it is harder to hit the head, but if shooting 15 times in the chest to get 3 through to maybe knock it down, or shooting 15 times at the head and get 1 or 2 to kill it, I would work on head shots.

[LiamKerrington]

Well, I am not so used to guns ... But I'd say aiming with the M134 might be kind of a challenge - especially when it comes to shooting heads, unless these are bloated to some degree ...

[Penguine]

M134 fires 2,000 to 6,000 rounds per minute....

I know. I was just making a joke, ya know, like when they say the average family has 1.3 kids. Sometimes math is stupid. You can't have .3 of a kid, just like you can't fire .3 of a bullet. And yes, the output of a minigun is stupidly high, but to break it down to rounds per second is silly. Who cares how many per second?

Well, I am not so used to guns ... But I'd say aiming with the M134 might be kind of a challenge - especially when it comes to shooting heads, unless these are bloated to some degree ...

LOL... headshots with a minigun would be messy! I'm talking with their M-16/M-4's that they are carrying. The everyday soldier gun.

[Triggernator]

I would recommend changing M134 for a GMG/Mk19. 40mm full auto grenade death wins every time and outside of a UGL the rounds are not fired that often so if you have them you might as well blow the crap out of Zacks with them.

*edit GMG fire 40x53 mm which is different to the 40x46mm fired by the M203. Not same ammo so you can use it up firing from the GMG.

[Penguine]

Problem with the mk19 is the rounds. The M134 uses belts of 1500, 3000, or 4500 rounds. The MK19 holds a box of either 32 or 48. I think I would stick with the M134. Oh.. and I do not think the MK19 can/has ever been mounted as a crew served weapon from a Blackhawk.

[Triggernator]

40x53 mm grenades have a kill radius vs a 7.62 NATO so they don't need as many per mag to get the same amount of kills.
Also, we Brits don't use the UH-60 so I don't know what you can mount on them but ever heard of duct tape?

[Cabbage Patch]

40x53 mm grenades have a kill radius vs a 7.62 NATO so they don't need as many per mag to get the same amount of kills.
Also, we Brits don't use the UH-60 so I don't know what you can mount on them but ever heard of duct tape?

This takes you back to the headshot issue. MK-19 grenades kill primarily with shrapnel, so you're not guaranteed headshots. That raises the question of whether it can produce an immediate kill on a zombie, particularly an "inkling". In contrast, a minigun kills with bullet hits. Both impart trauma damage, but the gross energy impact of 7.62mm bullets, especially multiple hits, is almost always going to be much greater from that of shrapnel, especially from a small grenade.

[Cabbage Patch]

I do not think the MK19 can/has ever been mounted as a crew served weapon from a Blackhawk.

A 40mm grenade launcher, predecessor to the MK19, was used in the chin turret of the original AH-1 Cobra gunship, mounted alongside a minigun. It wasn't successful as a helicopter weapon, mainly because the grenades have short range and fly comparatively slowly. Rockets and guns proved more efficient, and allow the helicopter to maneuver more aggressively while firing.

[Triggernator]

40x53mm has a kill radius of 5m and an injury radius of 15m. That will mangle most zombies in the area and at least seriously maim them. But more effective than trying to shoot the same area with rounds from a M134