Chapter 29-1- Beyond Our Walls Part 1

[uuhhhuuu]

I HAVE A THEORY!! (so proud of myself lol)i think the colonel will DIE!! dun dun dun!! not sure how but it would fit the story great. i dont know how many soldiers are at the base, or even there ranks, but if the colonel dies some else can take over. maybe SGT Cross? OR MAYBE even a certain Lieutenant!! (is Angel a1st or 2nd lieutenant?)

never mind!! lol saw the wiki about Angel's rank.

[Cabbage Patch]

What do you think will happen to Pegs? Given the under-strength appearance of Fort Irwin there can't be many helicopter pilots on the base, possibly not enough to man the birds they have. Pegs has already demonstrated her ability to fly the Pelican/Jolly Green Giant and it's unlikely anyone else on the base has ever flown one.

Can you imagine Pegs getting drafted and given a warrant officer's rank (most Army pilots are warrant officers). She'd outrank Michael, which could be fun. Datu and Kelly could be assigned to her flight crew, maybe even Riley if she's ever released from the hospital. It would be a better use of personnel than leaving them to rot in barracks, plus it could help set the stage for the inevitable trip back to LA.

[clem131]

Of course Michael is going to say or do something that will prevent him from learning what's going on. That's what he ALWAYS do. Someone is about to tell him something... He interupts by saying something rude... other person gets fed up and walks away.

I have a fear this is going to happen. I don't like it, not because of us not getting to know more about the facts, but because the whole identity crisis seemed kinda rushed in to me. They spent days preparing to go to Irwin. They came to Irwin, a military base, hoping to find the military to be protected and safer than in the city. Michael is a soldier. They spent days doing nothing. What else did he expect? Not once it occurred to Michael "Hey, I'm a soldier in a military base, I wonder what might happen now, duh, do you think they will put me on duty again?". Therefore him not signing the papers seems to me just a bit too easy way to get a cliffhanger at the end of this episode too.
Did anyone notice how Puck was narrating? That's interesting, we have always considered the narration as someone reading one of the daily logs. Does that mean that eventually he will leave the army and join our group of survivors somewhere else, starting his own diary?

[GeneTwo]

About the maps and inventory reports in the Col office, he's just being practical. The intel has more to do with supplies than anything else. Even if Fort Irwin is stocked to the brim you still got to know where to get more fuel, food, weapons, and other supplies.

I don't like the nuke option. It just doesn't feel like something a sane military man would do. That is if the Col is sane. Anyway it just seems like using nukes is like boxing yourselves in.

The bad news. Unless Fort Irwin is being attacked regularly by super zombies, we probably already know what the bad news is. All major US cities lost. No contact with the government. Other bases under siege or lost contact. Michael probably knows more about the zombies than the folks at Fort Irwin. Well, that is unless they have proof that the zombies is a terrorist plot or have a haze maker machine.

Finally, Tanya is freaking out because the military will find that she has bite scars. Not from humans but from animals. She was a vet after all. The scars might have gotten her almost killed at the Colony and she may believe that it may get her killed at the base.

[Litmaster]

All of Fort Irwin's other aviation assets, including the OPFOR and base support helicopters and a few fixed wing aircraft, are based 40 miles away at the civilian airport in Barstow. Which is over run.

Ah, shit! Really? Damn, there goes my dream of a mass-Apache assault on the Colony!!!

Col. Kimmet "Sgt. Cross, this entire zombie apocalypse started when...."
Michael interupts "HEY!! Don't call them zombies!!!"
Col. Kimmet "At ease Cross! I warned you about disrespecting authority! Shultz, get in here! Escort Sgt. Cross to the kooler!"
Sgt. Shultz "Jawohl, Herr Kommandant!"

Ha! Now that's just funny...

I don't like it, not because of us not getting to know more about the facts, but because the whole identity crisis seemed kinda rushed in to me [...] Therefore him not signing the papers seems to me just a bit too easy way to get a cliffhanger at the end of this episode too.

I'm thinking that Kc probably ended the episode the way that he did so as to illustrate Michael's identity crisis, the whole inner conflict he is feeling between his old loyalty to to duty and his new loyalty to his adopted family (that was the Michael = Antigone thing I mentioned back HERE).

I think he will sign, but the fact that he hesitates shows his conflicted loyalties.... which are about to get even more conflicted once Nurse Britt finds those big ol' teeth marks on Tanya's backside...

[clem131]

I'm thinking that Kc probably ended the episode the way that he did so as to illustrate Michael's identity crisis, the whole inner conflict he is feeling between his old loyalty to to duty and his new loyalty to his adopted family (that was the Michael = Antigone thing I mentioned back HERE).

I think he will sign, but the fact that he hesitates shows his conflicted loyalties.... which are about to get even more conflicted once Nurse Britt finds those big ol' teeth marks on Tanya's backside...

You are right, I hope he will sign, and I guess there was no better way to introduce Michael's identity crisis, still it felt a bit sudden to me.
BTW, sometimes I just point out odd things because it feels repetitive to say how the rest of the episodes is just awesome.

[zombie19]

What do you think will happen to Pegs? Given the under-strength appearance of Fort Irwin there can't be many helicopter pilots on the base, possibly not enough to man the birds they have. Pegs has already demonstrated her ability to fly the Pelican/Jolly Green Giant and it's unlikely anyone else on the base has ever flown one.

Can you imagine Pegs getting drafted and given a warrant officer's rank (most Army pilots are warrant officers). She'd outrank Michael, which could be fun. Datu and Kelly could be assigned to her flight crew, maybe even Riley if she's ever released from the hospital. It would be a better use of personnel than leaving them to rot in barracks, plus it could help set the stage for the inevitable trip back to LA.

I was thinking the same thing. They can't have many pilots with the rotation of the soldiers. However, when they first arrived at the base someone told Pegs to shut off the chopper to save gas. This kinda gives me the impression that they are currently using a type of air transport. Not necessarily a chopper.

[UndeadSweeper]

I have a fear this is going to happen. I don't like it, not because of us not getting to know more about the facts, but because the whole identity crisis seemed kinda rushed in to me. They spent days preparing to go to Irwin. They came to Irwin, a military base, hoping to find the military to be protected and safer than in the city. Michael is a soldier. They spent days doing nothing. What else did he expect? Not once it occurred to Michael "Hey, I'm a soldier in a military base, I wonder what might happen now, duh, do you think they will put me on duty again?". Therefore him not signing the papers seems to me just a bit too easy way to get a cliffhanger at the end of this episode too.
Did anyone notice how Puck was narrating? That's interesting, we have always considered the narration as someone reading one of the daily logs. Does that mean that eventually he will leave the army and join our group of survivors somewhere else, starting his own diary?

Since Micheal is his superior commander, then was probably told by him to keep one.

[IBMguy]

Burt (Marv) was former Army, like myself. In fact we served with each other. And Victor (Otto) was a Marine (Well, once, always). And Kelly(Tammy) was Air Force.

Love this fact, being medically retired Air Force especially nice to see Tammy as prior AF.

[HardKor]

Did anyone notice how Puck was narrating? That's interesting, we have always considered the narration as someone reading one of the daily logs. Does that mean that eventually he will leave the army and join our group of survivors somewhere else, starting his own diary?

Well Puck has probably been keeping a log from the beginning. At the very least just a list of events to tell is superiors, which is what his narration sounded like. My guess is that since Puck was assigned to work under Michael, that means Michael will have access to all the logs and anything else with information to help him do his job.