Chapter 22- "Our Doubts Are Traitors" part 2

[Arkum]

Its not hate. I love Riley for all her lying traitor ratness.

[Mordekii]

Maybe im wrong but....

Kalani was Burt's Right-Hand Man when he was in charge, and that is when they moved the armory. So it would seem that everyone present at the time of the shooting had no idea there was an alarm on the armory like that. My guess is Kalani knew where to cut it, and slipped out right after. He already was alone leaving Michael and Tanya. So he really wasnt with Datu the entire time. I really am shakey on this reasoning but man it makes sense to me. One more thing, Pippin was killed professional style. What I heard was a pro job, 2 to the chest and 1 to the head. Doubt anyone like Kelly would do it with style like that. Just my .02 Love love love the chapter so far, gripping stuff.

[cPT.cAPSLOCK]

One more thing, Pippin was killed professional style. What I heard was a pro job, 2 to the chest and 1 to the head. Doubt anyone like Kelly would do it with style like that.

Emphasis mine.

Actually, there were two bullets fired to Pippin, and one on the radio (which first gives the impression Hope got shot).
Michael and Angel mention the radio was shot.

[HardKor]

Emphasis mine.

Actually, there were two bullets fired to Pippin, and one on the radio (which first gives the impression Hope got shot).
Michael and Angel mention the radio was shot.

There were three shots into Pippin and one in the radio (two shots, a pause and some gurgling, a third shot, Hope begging for the assailant not to shoot, then the radio is shot)

[nikvoodoo]

Mordekii and hardkor are right. 4 shots total in the guard room. Presumably 3 at Pippin, and the 4th at the radio.

As for Riley acting like she's a drunk....its not acting. Throughout the series Riley has shown evidence of being an alcoholic or at the very least enjoying getting drunk far more than anyone else. Outside of the party, who else in the Tower has been shown drinking? And aside from a bow and arrow, the "prop" I most associate Riley with is a liquor bottle. She was drunk the night Latch and Scratch appeared at the Tower, she knew she wouldn't want to drink the wine they broke to cover her and Angel's scent in the kitchen during the Arena mission (I realize that could be because she's a chef as well), and now she's drunk again. Riley doesn't get a whole bunch of face time on the show, but a lot of it has involved alcohol.

To be clear, I'm not saying she is. I'm just saying there's evidence she could be. It also might just be the French cultural thing where she drinks because it was acceptable behavior when she was growing up. But...who knows.

[Leedo2502]

Definitly! and i think leedo and everyone else are gonna have a cow when they find out what type the helicopter was XD

Effing Aye Right Mikey! LOL I was hoping that it would have been more conspiratorial le' sigh

[yarri]

in 20-3 Scratch makes mention of the Mallers having a "her" during a conversation with Tardust (right after mentioning that she is going to drop Pippin off [around 12:25]). I know I for one have been theorizing that this "her" might be a hostage. If this is the case everyone in the Tower could have a potential motive.
As for the scent factor, She could have splashed herself with booze after killing Pippin to throw off people off her trail. When Angel and Riley were on the roof before, Angel didn't mention her smelling of alcohol. It was more like he noticed her acting drunk (slurred speech, stumbling. knocking things over, etc...).

P.S.
Riley also has the best motive for stealing the silenced pistol in the first place. I wondered in the part 1 thread why someone would steal the gun because whoever did it would have had to steal it before Pippin showed up either before or during the Lizzie rescue attempt. Riley has a motive for stealing the gun: Steven. She might have wanted to kill ol' Steve for getting Lizzie kicked out and then Pippin shows up and takes priority.
I doubt it will happen, but if Steven winds up with a cap in his ass I'm declaring victory.

Ok I am not crazy someone else thought of this.. *dabs forehead* I was worried I was crazy for thinking this exact same thing.

[wh33t]

Btw, the nerd joke that Angel made. Who is Jade/Jane Gerrick/Gerrid? I can't quite make out the exact name, but it's something along those lines.

[Hellbringer]

Btw, the nerd joke that Angel made. Who is Jade/Jane Gerrick/Gerrid? I can't quite make out the exact name, but it's something along those lines.

He's the original Flash from the comics. A couple of people brought that up earlier, but it's buried way in this thread. I have to admit that if you don't get to read the thread everyday, it becomes a huge undertaking to sift through. Had to do that a couple of episodes ago myself.

[wh33t]

He's the original Flash from the comics. A couple of people brought that up earlier, but it's buried way in this thread. I have to admit that if you don't get to read the thread everyday, it becomes a huge undertaking to sift through. Had to do that a couple of episodes ago myself.

Well, the forums used to email me every time someone posted something new. But for some reason on these big episode discussion threads it often 'forgets' too. I even checked my junk mail, nothing from the We're Alive forums in there either.

Thanks for clearing that up! KC and Angel are both super nerds. Rad.

Back on Topic:
I just re-listened to the episode. Riley doesn't sound like a culprit to me. When she is mentioning the radio she seems genuinely panicked. What did she do before? Wasn't she a chef? Doesn't seem like someone with out any kind of background experience in acting or being an undercover could pull off something so swiftly, yet there is still a lot of evidence that points to her. I should go check out the "Who's the Rat thread", maybe there has been some developments there.