Chapter 21- "Mark of the Beast" - Part 3

[Wicked Sid]

It is now a state of marshal law. The civili liberties of the old country are long gone. In a survival of the fittest world, your always guilty first.

This is the realm of OoC debate, the rules set within the We're Alive universe have no bearing here whatsoever.

[Tandem25]

At about 2:50 douchebag err Pippin gives his account of his "getaway". He makes no mention of getting a gun. Where did his gun come from?
Answer: Scratch. When she dropped him off to infiltrate the tower.

[Wicked Sid]

At about 2:50 douchebag err Pippin gives his account of his "getaway". He makes no mention of getting a gun. Where did his gun come from?
Answer: Scratch. When she dropped him off to infiltrate the tower.

That's exactly the same as saying "Skittles got his gun from Scratch too" because we have no idea where he got his either.

Maybe he found it off of a dead body. Maybe he found one left in a store (shop owner's). There are quite a few other options from which he could have aquired a gun.

[MrScott101]

I'd be hesitant of pippen just because of his affiliation with the mallers regardless of whether or not he was on good terms with them. At the same time we still don't know what Durai's plan is and for all we know, the mallers might think the tower has some good weapons and food supply for them to scrounge. Also take in that they are taking slaves and the tower has 20-30 good candidates for that aspect.

Maybe the chopper is one from the colony, such one of the last ones to leave and not come back? Maybe it's now being used as bait or trap for the zombies?

[Tandem25]

That's exactly the same as saying "Skittles got his gun from Scratch too" because we have no idea where he got his either.

Maybe he found it off of a dead body. Maybe he found one left in a store (shop owner's). There are quite a few other options from which he could have aquired a gun.

It's not quite the same. Skittles has been scrounging since it all began. We know that Pippen had a finite amount of time to get from the drop off point (and we know he was dropped off - his first obvious lie) to the tower. If he just happened to find a weapon in that short time then... I agree with you. It is possible. Not probable. But possible.

[nikvoodoo]

There's something I've been meaning to bring up about those whoa re saying Pippin got beat up so he obviously isn't working with the Mallers. There's an episode of Burn Notice where Michael Weston is about to be put in a cell with a Russian human trafficker and in order to sell his cover ID he had to be punched in the face legitimately 3 or 4 times. Because as he put it if you're going to be up close and personal with someone who needs to believe you've been beat up there's no way to get around that except to actually be punched in the face.

Just throwing that out there.

[cupcakezombie]

I think the main assumption we are making, in the case of Pippen, is that he was dropped off at the tower. We don't know where Scratch dropped Pippin off. It could be that he was a slave being dropped off back at the mall, having been punished for something else, and then he got away.
I am not saying that is the case. But just that we are running with the assumption that because Scratch mentioned him, he is on their side.

[ComradeNarf]

Certainly a possibility, but if Pippen were a slave, would Scratch refer to him by name? She seems eager to dish out the contempt, especially to those she deems to be below her. Or it could be a clever ruse by a certain writer to make us doubt Pippen the whole time...

[Hellbringer]

ok, I'm staying away from the whole firefight about Pippen and the gun... I don't need a shop owner's gun hitting me in the face enough times to not be totally recognizable in a passport photo.

I think the helo is a Sikorsky S-61R, or as I I know it, a Jolly Green Giant. I had to pull the real name from wiki, but that's been put out there in a previous post.

Now the point I'm interested in for this part of the chapter is that Burt mentions MP5s. If I remember correctly, the colony had some MP5s stashed away and they were from left by the rescue party (Coast Guard?) before they abandoned what would become the colony. I tie the MP5s to the crew of the helicopter and not the attackers of the helicopter. Of course, that doesn't help figure out who/what attacked the helicopter, but it might help flesh out some more theories with a little bit of more information.

[ObamaCat]

I was a little disappointed by the length, but we can't have stellar 20 + min episodes all the time . Still a good episode, stocked for 22 now

I'll touch on two things that caught my attention during the episode that have most likely been brought up multiple times already

1) Kalani's story has some proof! A crashed Hawaiian liner on the tarmac! I don't know if Kalani mentioned a crash landing when he told his tale, I'll have to re-listen to the older episodes, but this is some serious evidence to back up his story.

2) Pipen's story is pretty convincing. Like j0be mentioned earlier, I would almost believe it if not for Scratch's little spiel about having to "drop off Pipen".

My 2 cents