Does Kalani get a pass?

[sailorangel59]

I mean, he may be a betrayer, but at least he took out Dick Van Dyke (aka Pippin). Just a thought....

[Osiris]

I will always love Kalani. I hated him at the start, but as time went on he became one of my favourite characters. His adventure with Angel solidified that for me. That motherfucker gets a pass. A superstar 'I'm a big damn hero' pass.

<3 Kalani - Forever Surfing <3

[nikvoodoo]

As much as I like Kalani as the complex character he is/was: no. He can't get a pass. He killed Pippin, he essentially lead to the deaths of Bill, Tommy, a pair of red shirts, and nearly destroyed the Tower.

You can sympathize with his plight. You can empathize with a parent wanting his child back...but you can't give him a pass.

[ComradeNarf]

In all fairness, I would've shot Pippen too.

I certainly can agree that he shouldn't get a pass, but I do feel pretty bad for the him. Coming from the First Tower, he was so certain that the comparatively shoddy defense set up by Cross & Co. was destined to fall. What harm would it do to push the ball along for a quick and painless transfer of power to get Hannah back?

Poor guy. Had no idea the havoc he was about to unleash. I've still got to like him, regardless of all the havoc he caused. Though he could never make amends for his actions, I give him a lot of credit for trying.

[Osiris]

You're must be joking. He paid for his sins with his life. He died trying to save everyone he possibly could. Pippin was a dirtbag who deserved to die. As far as the superfluous characters that died in the attacks as a result of Kalani's actions, it's likely they would have died anyway. The guy was doing what was right: anything and everything he could to save his daughter. Truth be told, family over strangers ANY day of the week. I don't care how friendly they are. I would have put a bullet in any one of them if I were in his position and not lose a minute of sleep over it. Not if it meant getting my child back safe.

[yarri]

You're must be joking. He paid for his sins with his life. He died trying to save everyone he possibly could. Pippin was a dirtbag who deserved to die. As far as the superfluous characters that died in the attacks as a result of Kalani's actions, it's likely they would have died anyway. The guy was doing what was right: anything and everything he could to save his daughter. Truth be told, family over strangers ANY day of the week. I don't care how friendly they are. I would have put a bullet in any one of them if I were in his position and not lose a minute of sleep over it. Not if it meant getting my child back safe.

I have to agree with this. Utterly, agree with this. My child before a friend in any situation, anytime, anywhere, and anyplace. My flesh and blood comes first. In the end he tried to make stuff right. He died trying. It was valiant and took serious courage to stare death in the face and ram that helo into a gas tanker knowing it was going to be a terrible death.

Kalani gets a pass

[Mr. AK-47]

Kalani was at first a vilian for the tower but became their savior. He did unknowing lead to the deaths of three tower members and almost killed everyone however, without Kalani no one would have need able to fly away on the helicopter without him teaching Pegs. Kalani also bought the tower enough time for some people to escape by crashing his helicopter into the tanker sacrificing himself. Also beware Kalani was not working with Scratch or the Maulers out of personal choice but because they had his seventeen year old daughter and after the first attack on the tower stopped all communication with the Maulers thus putting the tower residence before his own daughter. In the end Kalani's self sacrifice does in deed make up for his past.

Btw Bill was kinda a dick and a security anyways.

[Luna Guardian]

I would give him a pass. To be honest, I would probably have done the same thing. When comparing the lives of people you don't know and/or even like and the most important person in your life, people get a pass for being selfish in my book. Its human nature.

I never really disliked Pippin that much before the recent episodes. He doesn't get a pass, and Kalani was a hero for shooting him (Pippin would probably have done the same to the Tower that Kalani did, so...even?)

[Osiris]

Yeah. You wouldn't want to be selfish and try and preserve the life of your child. That would just be fucking selfish.

[Ray]

As far as the superfluous characters that died in the attacks as a result of Kalani's actions, it's likely they would have died anyway. The guy was doing what was right: anything and everything he could to save his daughter.

No, they died specifically because of Kalani. HE killed every single person that has died because of the attack by the mallers. Had he not lead them there, had he not betrayed them, had he not made damn sure that they couldn't fight back they all died. Would they have died later on? Maybe. All we know is that they ARE dead because of the actions of Kalani. Yes, protect your child and all, but only a moron would think that they Mallers would hold up their end of the deal. Kalani was stupid for believing they would and because of that everything that sits now is because of him. He can never be forgiven for what he did, fighting for his daughter or not. The second they took Hanna away from him, she was as good as dead. Only an idiot (in his shoes, not anyone here) would think otherwise and his actions are the sole reason everyone that is dead or missing is gone. The only reason. Crashing the helo into the rig wasn't because of his desire to save everyone, he said that he barely tolerated everyone even after all the work they were doing to try and save as many people as they could. Kalani was looking out for himself and Hanna the whole time, no one else. Thinking he could save Hanna was complete stupidity. He saw how they treated everyone and for cripes sake they were all murders and violent criminals, how could he possibly think they would hold up their end of the deal? He saw first hand what they were capable of, Scratch was hell bent on killing every single one of the Tower residents because Pegs killed her brother in self defense. Scratch attacked innocent people and they merely defended themselves and she goes on a murderous rampage. Kalani should have known right then that Hanna was as good as dead. He was an irrational, idiotic, backstabbing moron and he deserved what he got. Good riddance to him, they were vastly better off before he showed up. Hell, they saved his life at the risk of their own at the Arena and he paid them back with betrayal. Kid or no kid, he was a dangerous idiot that got almost everyone killed while insulting them and plotting behind their backs. He justly died, but he should have suffered for it in the process.