Everyone is really mean about Datu!

**Fishie** · Jun 17th, 2011, 08:02 AM

I feel bad for Datu, everyone goes on about how he's too sensitive and is always blubbering.
I have really enjoyed Datu's story arc though, I thought the section with him and Samantha in the arena was a highlight of Season 1 and was the most emotionally wrenching thing I've listened to in a while. Hearing him cry as he tried not to watch nearly had me in tears as well... People seem to have more of an issue with him crying again when he met Hope, but I thought it was nice that he was so glad to see her, and I think he will become a sort of father figure for her in future episodes.

(Having said that, it was pretty funny when Angel said "Oh look, Datus crying again" at the end of Chapter 19)

Also, nobody complained about Angel crying when they had to shoot Cindy!

**shric debar** · Jun 17th, 2011, 10:04 AM

I do actually agree with you on this one everyone is being a bit hard on datu after everything he's been through.

**smalls kenobi** · Jun 17th, 2011, 10:05 AM

i personally like the guy. he reminds me of myself sometime.

**Ra1th** · Jun 17th, 2011, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by Fishie

I feel bad for Datu, everyone goes on about how he's too sensitive and is always blubbering.
I have really enjoyed Datu's story arc though, I thought the section with him and Samantha in the arena was a highlight of Season 1 and was the most emotionally wrenching thing I've listened to in a while. Hearing him cry as he tried not to watch nearly had me in tears as well... People seem to have more of an issue with him crying again when he met Hope, but I thought it was nice that he was so glad to see her, and I think he will become a sort of father figure for her in future episodes.

(Having said that, it was pretty funny when Angel said "Oh look, Datus crying again" at the end of Chapter 19)

Also, nobody complained about Angel crying when they had to shoot Cindy!

No one is giving Datu shit for crying about samantha during chapter 9 and 10, right after the incident. But ever since then he has been a pain in the ass. Mr negative, I wish we could all die because I hate life. Also he gets bummed out and probably has some level of depression.

All in all, Angel cried once about having to shoot Cindy on the spot. Never again. Samantha died in chapter 9. It is now chapter 23, and Datu is still depressed and cries a lot. Screw you Datu. Go jump of a cliff.

**smalls kenobi** · Jun 17th, 2011, 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by Ra1th

Screw you Datu. Go jump of a cliff.

You're mean, haha.

**shric debar** · Jun 17th, 2011, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by Ra1th

No one is giving Datu shit for crying about samantha during chapter 9 and 10, right after the incident. But ever since then he has been a pain in the ass. Mr negative, I wish we could all die because I hate life. Also he gets bummed out and probably has some level of depression.

All in all, Angel cried once about having to shoot Cindy on the spot. Never again. Samantha died in chapter 9. It is now chapter 23, and Datu is still depressed and cries a lot. Screw you Datu. Go jump of a cliff.

woha mean much? oh wait you're defending angel, there's a surprise.

ok angel never had to witness his girlfriend being ripped to shreds by 100's of zombies did he? datu did. also angel is trained to deal with situations such as having to see someone close to him die and sending people to their deaths. he's an officer, they are trained to cope with those emotions. datu on the other hand is not.

**reaper239** · Jul 22nd, 2011, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by shric debar

woha mean much? oh wait you're defending angel, there's a surprise.

ok angel never had to witness his girlfriend being ripped to shreds by 100's of zombies did he? datu did. also angel is trained to deal with situations such as having to see someone close to him die and sending people to their deaths. he's an officer, they are trained to cope with those emotions. datu on the other hand is not.

being an officer doesn't mean you don't feel, and no amount of training can prepare you to give the order to put a bullet in a loved one. i've been been listening like two days and i can see where people are getting fed up with datu. to me angel typifies a new LT, no experience, no leadership skills, nothing but book smarts. in that way michael and angel fell perfectly into the nco/officer roles: the officer lays out the mission and the nco executes it, but head knowledge doesn't change the fact that when it started, angel was just some kid, fresh out of college who was greener than the grouch, so saying that he should be better able to handle it because he is an officer isn't fair. what it comes down to is the difference between someone who joins the army and someone who doesn't, it's a baseline personality difference. yes i think datu is wallowing in that whole "pity me" attitude, but he just isn't the kind of person who can easily deal with that sort of trauma.

**Fishie** · Jun 17th, 2011, 11:35 AM

Originally Posted by Ra1th

Samantha died in chapter 9. It is now chapter 23, and Datu is still depressed and cries a lot

Maybe I don't mind it because I only discovered the podcast in May, perhaps if I'd been listening to him crying since February 2010 I'd be a bit tired of him as well. I still think people are too harsh about him though, god knows what I'd be like if I'd watched someone I loved being torn apart for entertainment, you can't get much more traumatic than that.

I don't see this as an Angel vs Datu thread or anything, I was just pointing out that other characters have cried and people haven't been giving them stick about it! Riley seems to be coping with the whole situation by turning to alcohol, and people aren't bashing her for being depressing.

I think shric debar explained what I was getting at better than I did!

**Ra1th** · Jun 17th, 2011, 10:34 AM

lol the datu fans are uniting. The problem with datu is he had a traumatic experience, but it was so long ago, that the audience is over it. They don't care about what he saw. Yeah that was an excuse to defend datu up to a certain point. Now he's just whining about a boo boo as far as the majority is concerned. Now is that the most analytic, most responsible way to go? No. But it's a lot more fun for me cause I hate Datu.