Chapter 31 Family Ties part 3

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Originally Posted by wh33t

CJ is so rad. I've loved her since we first met her. It's looking doubtful that she is SWAT now. What SWAT member would only have a Katana sword in their apartment? Maybe one that specializes in planning or something but that still seems like a strange weapon to keep around as your only defense.

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I thought that was interesting too. My money is on C.J. being a gamer. The Zombie Apocalypse is her time to shine in real life. As far as the sword getting stuck in bone, it happens. I just can't find the source. Ugh!!!! She seems as competent as Kick Ass. Sure, she took down Saul but he was weekened and she missed shooting him in the face from point blank range. Now she charges a zombie and takes one down but gets the sword stuck in the other's one bone. I'm waiting to hear her attempt to Parkour up a wall and land flat on her back.

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Originally Posted by 7oddisdead

I'm noticing a trend...keeping my eye on something.

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What trend are you noticing? Inquiring minds must know!

So, either CJ is playing mind games or is so shut down sexually she sees herself as one of the guys. Hard to believe she wouldn't know it would affect the guys so much. Half of "modesty" is protection against guys with poor impulse control who think skin=sex now. So, what are her mind games? Look at what you'll be missing out on Saul or anything more devious that I'm not devious enough to think of?

Edit: Do you think the katana was just decoration?

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Originally Posted by Eviebae

So, either CJ is playing mind games or is so shut down sexually she sees herself as one of the guys. Hard to believe she wouldn't know it would affect the guys so much. Half of "modesty" is protection against guys with poor impulse control who think skin=sex now. So, what are her mind games? Look at what you'll be missing out on Saul or anything more devious that I'm not devious enough to think of?

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My guess is that either she's playing mind games with Saul OR she doesn't care. Showing skin is a personal decision and not necessarily at all related to being sexually shut down. I for example wouldn't have problems taking my shirt off around people I don't know, but that may be a cultural thing as well.

But I do think it's more likely she's trying to entice Saul with her bosom.

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Originally Posted by Luna Guardian

My guess is that either she's playing mind games with Saul OR she doesn't care. Showing skin is a personal decision and not necessarily at all related to being sexually shut down. I for example wouldn't have problems taking my shirt off around people I don't know, but that may be a cultural thing as well.

But I do think it's more likely she's trying to entice Saul with her bosom.

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It's always seemed to me that Europeans are more comfortable with nudity than Americans. It shows up a lot in European films, and I've seen some European commercials that have nudity in them that American's would think explicit. I'm not from Europe though, so I'm not sure, and correct my if I'm wrong.

I'm sure the latter is true: CJ has got the hots for Saul. She almost succeeded in enticing him too; he had to use his Lizzy mind-shield.

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Originally Posted by Osiris

I lost my shit when I read that! Remind me to rep you for that later.

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:yay:

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Originally Posted by Luna Guardian

Which makes Osiris' comment about "I was touched by the Rep Fairy. It was awkward at first, but then it was ok" that much more disturbing :D

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Mahahaha, quite. :D

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Originally Posted by Kuolinkorinaa

It's always seemed to me that Europeans are more comfortable with nudity than Americans. It shows up a lot in European films, and I've seen some European commercials that have nudity in them that American's would think explicit. I'm not from Europe though, so I'm not sure, and correct my if I'm wrong.

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I think this is the case, also something I've never quite understood in the modern American society. Blood, gore and violence are A-OK but good heaven's if there are sexual undertones or, heaven forbid, three pounds of fat with a nipple! Scandalous

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Originally Posted by Loyal Retainer

What trend are you noticing? Inquiring minds must know!

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..thats just a placeholder, a bookmark of sorts for mine own records...actually has nothing to do with the show...

but now, show related shizz...

so ill admit. i honestly dont see what the big deal is with cj's toplessness...im not so sure it was a mind game so much as a simple yet effective way to get their attention...clear their minds, and get them ready for the task at hand...that scene takes place directly before the week long surveilance session..i cant see her doing something like that and then reverting back to normal cj for that period of time if..shes trying to make saul have second thoughts or whatever...no...does not compute here

cj also has dropped a few lines in this chapter that can really aid us in figuring out what she was prior to outbreak. last chapter when discussing rescue, she basically said why would i ever leave this place(dunbar) when i have everything i could ever want/need? why go through the trivial daily bullshit when here, i just have it? this chapter, we learn that the katana was the only weapon she owned prior to outbreak. so how is it she has....what we think....a good knowledge of weapons? she seems to take perrsonal ownership of anything that exists within the walls of dunbar tower?...seriously, when she said "children!" it soooooo sounded like a schoolteacher...i stand by the sarah conner theory

i didnt go digging through the threads to find where i said this, but we got full on confirmation of the scavangers at the colony being mostly (90%) old colony members...not mallers, at all....and people gave me crap for that. well...guess what? heres another one from a ways back

im willing to bet next time we hear from the dunbar crew, we learn that the way cj was able to sneak up on saul at the secret garden was well placed cars over open manhole covers. cj having a good working knowledge of sewer system will send vic in via a connecting pipe from the outside to the inside. many of us have specualted thats the way its going...and if not that...trojan horse


edit: and a word on the katana getting stuck via one "hero protagonist" via neal stephensons; snow crash....if you do not properly snap the wrist at the point of imact with bone, the blade can easily become lodged. technique is key.

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Originally Posted by Luna Guardian

I think this is the case, also something I've never quite understood in the modern American society. Blood, gore and violence are A-OK but good heaven's if there are sexual undertones or, heaven forbid, three pounds of fat with a nipple! Scandalous

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I know, I don't understand it either. We're also the only country with an drinking age limit of 21; you can join the Army here at 18, but not drink alcohol. O_o I attribute a lot of the lenience towards violence and abhorrence towards sexual things to the strong hold religion has over the people, and the strong conservative mindset that is very present in the government. I'm not saying I'm against showing violence, but I think sexuality should not be frowned upon either: they should both be shown with an equal lack of censorship. I suppose that may sound strange (and I'm also saying these things without a lot of evidence to back them up, they're just purely my opinions).

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Originally Posted by Kuolinkorinaa

I know, I don't understand it either. We're also the only country with an drinking age limit of 21; you can join the Army here at 18, but not drink alcohol. O_o

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Forget about that, you can become a porn star at 18 and yet still only drink at 21 :D

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Originally Posted by Luna Guardian

My guess is that either she's playing mind games with Saul OR she doesn't care. Showing skin is a personal decision and not necessarily at all related to being sexually shut down. I for example wouldn't have problems taking my shirt off around people I don't know, but that may be a cultural thing as well.

But I do think it's more likely she's trying to entice Saul with her bosom.

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I think you all are wrong I think it's victor she was trying to entice. Victor needs love too!!!