No, worries, buddy. Besides, you made a good point about the paranoia. That's what the forum is all about. Discussion & perspectives.
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I do not think they have an interest in Tanya. I think it was just a coincidence. She was there so Randy grabbed her for fresh meat for the grinder.
Alt twist.. Tanya becomes scared and Hulks out and rips the little one to shreds and then turns back to good ole Snippy Tanya.. Victor just stares off into space for several days not believing what he just witnessed..
What I think happens.. They miraculously get a away from the little in time to toss an air take at it and as soon as it picks it up Vic shoots it Jaws style and blows up #7.. Then its mama comes back looking for revenge..
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If Ink's superior status is the result of drugs he was taking when he turned, hasn't it already been established that the Zeds acclimate to drugs or physical attacks very quickly--for instance the chloroform--even when the dose is upped? So, maybe what he was taking could have affected his outcome but taking more afterwards wouldn't. I think his need for more chemicals will turn out to be either/or to make the zombies obey him or give him control the making of other zombies.
He's not the only human in the world taking antipsychotics.
Zomboids react to the smell of human sweat but hey ignored Skittles (pretty sure it wasn't out of gratitude). Way back when, I pointed out he was walking around the area of arena with no protection (or sanity). I've always thought maybe something in his personal body bouquet makes him invisible to them...or maybe he sort of smells like one of them so he doesn't read as target. It will be interesting to see how the one menacing Tanya and Saul reacts to them. When Saul crashed the car, the zombies couldn't smell him (maybe because he reeked of booze) but Randy was able to smell Tanya enough to drag her with him...or perhaps he was targeting people who smelled like her.
Awesome episode! Predictions. Either Tanya will be the first dead or Victor will be, trying to save Tanya. Victor was the only 'journal entry' voice over in that section of the episode. I am guessing the destroyed transfer van that held Ink was not destroyed by zombies, but by an already turned Ink, breaking out.
I agree with you on the fact that other humans in the world were taking anti-psychotic drugs and probably a bunch were one the exact same ones as Ink, too. So I think we can rule out any of his psych meds as being a sole factor for his special situation.
From the info we just learned about the timing and circumstances of his tats, he may have been preparing for something (real or imagined). What if those ink pens had more than just ink in them? Perhaps some sort of special Raydon Roberts cocktail for superhuman performance.....
Mix that stuff with his psych state and the <whatever is the actual cause of Zday> and you might just get super Z man!
As for ignoring and/or leaving people alone like Duncan & CJ, not sure yet. Maybe something about Duncan's physiology made the normal biters think he was one of them (Skittles seemed really afraid of the special ones though). Or maybe Duncan has a tie to Ink we don't know about yet....
"Seven" pouncing on the regular zombie... First thought was "oh wow!"
Second thought was "no, the joke goes "six was afraid because seven 'ate' nine" not "Vic and Tanya were afraid because seven ate a poor ole regular zombie dude."
Third thought was about Monica from "Friends."
But seriously, great episode, KC!
Now something that caught my ear, and this doesn't help anyone's theories at all so it'll probably go unnoticed, but when everyone was arguing while Michael was radioing back... the whole conversation sounded similar to several arguments I've had around me in regard to how the Middle East and South Asia should be handled. I'm not tossing this out there to draw up political escalations, but if you change a word or two, it can be very topical for today, or even the last 12 years. This line of thinking got me comparing KC to Christopher Nolan with his Batman trilogy because CN did that with the themes of those movies.
Hopefully, KC isn't going to go all Inception on us with the information that we got to hear in this particular episode; that would be crazy.
That's a very mafioso/goodfellas/FAMILY way of conducting business.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UceGF3M56bE
Well, I don't know if you could say he was "doing time" there, but he did at least spend time at Eastern Bay. Where we know at least two of The Family were doing time.
...aaand chapter WA 40 already has an entry on that page.
My guess is on Cohen as the spelling. It is Hebrew for "priest." Those tattoos are certainly ritualistic... but for what ritual(s)?
Clue? Dead lead at the moment... I just went through the Maller section of the Wiki to double check and didn't turn up anything new.
This is an interesting thought. Perhaps there is a connection between the families and Ink/Bill Roberts/TOWTM/whatever which would explain their supreme amount of luck when dealing with "them." But then why would Durai plan an assault on the arena? Hmmm....
Well, at least one of them will survive to write it down... And since Victor is doing the VO I'd guess it's him... But has Tanya fulfilled her purpose yet?
Beside that, I've always been sure that Saul would be the Tink to die, not her... Or maybe 7 shouts out to them and invites them to Ink's one-year-as-a-zombie-party at the hospital.
And doesn't Randy have a marking on his face too??
LMAO, bro!!!!
I can see the show now, Victor and Tanya roaming the post apocalyptic LA scene dolling out their own brand of justice while dropping catch phrases (Tanya's should be "Bitch, please!").
Seriously though, is there anyone Victor can't have an awesome scene with? Between Kc's writing and Otto's acting, Victor is AWESOME and is now officially tied for "favorite character in WA"....
Maybe something with the approaching thunderstorm. Or, heaven forbid, Scratch show up and 'saves' their asses.
Or Skittles shows up!! He has helped out in the past, and with some of these theories we need a way to get him back into the Storyline!! :excited:
I'd bet that there are Police photos of the tattoos in Robert's case file.
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I'm hoping this. But most likely a oxygen tank is going to be shot and cause a boom or a rocket-like projector heading toward #7. While Victor said " Well, that blows."
Would it be in the police station or the prison? From what we heard from the Mallers no one should visit the prison.
I don't think Ink was ever at Eastern Bay, as KC has specifically said
Ink would have been in Jail until sentencing, which never happened.
In case some people don't know the difference, basically a Jail is for people awaiting trial and people sentenced for a short duration, typically less than a year or two. A prison is for people convicted of crimes and sentenced for a longer term.
The Mallers are definitely prisoners.
I guess this ends any theories that Ink was the one that started the whole infection, since he was turned himself by some sort of ambush....
Good thoughts on the photos of the tats. I'm betting that they do find these and, when they look over some of the details, notice that several of the tats are matches for the stuff on the note found at Raydon Labs.
Cuz I doubt seriously that anybody is going to get an up close examination of Ink's tats AND be alive to write about it in a journal entry.... (but I've been wrong before!)
Good stuff, CP!
Great Scott, you are right! Alright, in to the courthouse. If there one thing I hate more then zombie clowns are zombie lawyers. :)
@scbubba It's ok to be wrong, since if we could predict everything in this show we wouldn't be have that much fun. Btw was KC have fun with us on this eps? It seem that everything we said last week was been go through by the crew.
What is going to happen?
Datu is looking pretty exposed up in the wind mill / water pump. Randy might want someone to play checkers with. Does Datu get taken hostage? Does victor and or Tanya get taken? I figure someone does. We still have the call back that Saul taught Lady scent tracking. It is just so out of the blue, I figure it is important.
Is an eye for an eye enough of a retaliation for ink? It would be for Scratch. Or, does he go all Denver on the colony? The soldiers are all out, and now there is twice the area to defend with less troops that are certainly complacent.
Dunbar is also looking really vunerable and Ink had little ones for a reason...
Going :tinfoil: Burt lives in a rundown place. I always figured it was Ingelwood. I could see him and Riley based out of there. I bet he has a cool arms depot at his home. The Haze was observed by victor and Saul in late August early September. Burt and Riley left the colony in late December / early January. It may have already been gone. Going really :tinfoil: if he worked with Raydon Labs and they have a secret secure facility that merits a level 3 ID, that could be in Ingelwood. So, I see ways to have Burt and Riley save the day.
Burt and Riey. Like Drake and Vasquez with harnesses each sporting a .50 cal.
Mata gun? Meh! Walking Fire taken to the extreme. Lol, ok, too much. But good for laughs like my comment about the Playstation scene two weeks ago
They could, maybe they do maybe they don't. Lizzy thought Saul's place near Gardenia was run down. Burt said Saul's place was the ritz compared to his place. I can use those facts to surmise Burt lived in Ingelwood and since the initial outbreak was in Ingelwood, Burt would have to fight his way through the initial outbreak to get to Lock and Loaded and thus delay his arrival. Because...
Some how, LA goes beserk. Zombies start eating people, but Scratch has time to break Latch out and then go to Lock and Loaded before Burt gets there. One last piece, doesn't Burt say that the smart one followed him and then trapped hi in the bathroom?
I can piece together snipets, but I cannot tell you what KC is going to do with them.
So, I finished it last night and took the morning to relisten and digest it all. First off, that weather was mixed in awesomely, so major props to the sound team there. With so much information in one episode, I realize that I have been wrong a few times about worrying this would turn into LOST essentially, so forgive me KC, for I have sinned.
Out of all the things in this episode, the two that I'll be taking away with me is that the crack in Inglewood is no longer good, and now we get some Kelly development which I think is long overdue personally. Just don't turn it into Ally McBeal and we'll be good. Or, actually, turn it into Ally McBeal, because nothing says zombie apocalypse like unisex bathrooms and good music.
Everything else seems to have been covered, I'll definitely have to be on the forums earlier next week.
Wait, what? :squint: Did I just badly misunderstand something? I thought that it was said that he was held at Eastern Bay... adding the mystery as to why there... instead of (pre)trial holding.
Ugh... I need a (few more) re-listen(s). :o
I was playing over the TOWTM is Family theory in my head... I was thinking that oooollld Families with deep pockets would look out for their own, even when in trouble. By having him transferred to a "special" wing at EB. Like Goodfellas.
Sh*t.
Lurker here, after reading this I thought of something. Could the explosion Michael heard at his school be what broke out Ink in the first episode? If it is; 1 the courthouse location is near the college attended, and 2 is the excision what triggered the outbreak. I think 2 might be wrong because of the cracks in Inglewood, but maybe someone else has a theory.
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