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hey! how did that picture of me get on the internetz!!!11!Quote:
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Oh, I just tapped into your webcam and turned it on, while biting the feed for the history channel during an interview session of a regular running television show and shopped your webcam stream into it. Anon caught wind and now you're a meme. Congrats.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7oddisdead
PS - Who DOES your hair? I need that number asap
this dude named falcor...its crazy, those furrry hands work magic...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoff4D
6000 views..woot
captains log...monday and shit
wild ideas..need to put somewhere. this'll do
trojan gas theory...by being surrounded by the undead, the area surrounding the colony now has low levels of "the haze" while not enough to turn people...it certainly puts a damper on spirits.
the thing scratch found at the end of season two was the original copies of the journals.. everyone seemed to gloss over the fact that when she and her people collected burt she knew exactly where shirly was then..why would she not grab it/her at that point? she wanted the gun from the start. no, scratch found the original copies of the journals. the journals likely contained "options" as to where the tower folk "could" be headed..all she needed to do was narrow down the options. this would also put the majority of the the information up to the destruction of in her hands..helping the idea of scratch being the lone survivor at the end of all this. so at the end of the finale, im expecting a thelma and louise type road trip....(tardust is louise..in case you were wondering) crossing locations off the list from the comfort of their new swat van.
how do you make a crackpot squee? in your season three finale have appearances of more than one pinstripe suited, tattooed zombie fellers...yup, i think its time for that to happen...
kaw-face
Was thinking about pinstrips, markings, etc as I finished Season 1 and started Season 2 this weekend. I figure we don't really have many confirmations that every tattooed Z and every suited Z are the same. We have a dude with strange skin at the Arena (says Datu and Skittles), we have pinstriped suit with tattooed face (Michael, Angel, Saul, Burt, etc at Tower), "commanding figure" on top of building during the fire after the War (Michael, Burt?), Suited dude in hospital (Kalani and Riley - Kalani says it's the one from the Arena?), Tattooed Dude in photos at Dunbar (CJ, Saul - Saul say it is pinstripes from Tower), and the "fk'er in the suit" at the Colony (Saul).Quote:
Originally Posted by 7oddisdead
There's a lot of room for a theory about multiple "special" Zeds. I think that, along with RandyZ, there are at least 2 more of these leader guys. The Arena dude being one and Pinstripes being a different one (from the Tower and Cain Hospital)
Not sure how it will play out, but it will be interesting....
District 9 Theory:
I saw District 9 the other day and I loved it! So much that I ignored some questionable plots, such as spaceship fuel genetically altering a human exposed to it. The aliens tied thier technology to thier genetic code so it was unusable by other species. A human was genetically changed into a Alien when he was sprayed in the face with the fuel,
I even Tweeted KC about how the narrative documentary style of the movie reminded me of We're alive.
Today it hit me! The zombie virus is a mutation of spaceship genetic fuel. How did it get into the earth? From an ancient alien spaceship crashing into earth! It is impossible to travel faster than the speed of light so interstellar travel could take several lifetimes. A spaceship would have to be the size of a large city to support several generations of space travelers. The impact with earth with a spaceship that big caused the ice age that killed of the dinosaurs. The genetic fuel spread around the world through the impact and caused Viruses to mutate. Most of the species infected by the virus died off and humans evolved from creatures that had an immunity. The virus died out everywhere but in giant subterranean caverns under the North American Tectonic plate. These caverns by the violent tectonic plate movement caused by s meterior strike that created the Ice age. Global warming allowed these caverns to thaw. The biological matter decomposed creating huge pockets of gas all along the Pacific ring of fire. Gas pressure allowed these pockets to link to each other until it connected to northern infected pocket. A small earthquake allowed the gas pockets to release the alien fuel mutated viruses along the junction of The North American and pacific Tectonic plates. California is right on this juncture!
Since it had been millions of years since the earth had been exposed to the virus only a few people per million have even a partial immunity.
Alien spaceship fuel explains everything !
Alien Bird Flu.
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Originally Posted by Osiris
Exactly! You understand! Why doesn't the so-called "Scientific" community understand? They laughed at my theories LAUGHED! But I will have the last laugh when I harvest survivors to get their virus resistant DNA! Oops I might have gotten confused with the plot to "Night of the Comet" :(
Sounds vaguely related to "Killer Klowns from Outer Space". Here judge for yourself:Quote:
Originally Posted by Duffusmonkey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHXy8DpF5k0
I'm just sayin'
Just seen this, been too far removed from this thread, time to come back. I'll have to give Falcor a ring......Perhaps he can give me the Peter Griffin treatment, YEAAAAAA!!!! Attachment 2312Quote:
Originally Posted by 7oddisdead
Also just gonna drop a crackpot here since I'm here....it's a repost of mine from 35-3 discussion, but it belongs here. It was in reply to the doctor of witches, I'll paraphrase/quote the reply:
Mark on Randy = Harry Potter lightning bolt equivalent from when Ink first battled Randy and Michael's love for him protected him from dying, but couldn't stop the turning process. Michael ended with a broken arm, Randy a Z-virus.....This is why Randy is a good zombie, and is merely seeking Michael to ask him why he saved him. They both ride off into the sunset upon their united effort against Ink to come.....Quote:
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Because 7oddisdead--contrary to his claims--is NOT a member of the scientific community.Quote:
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That's not what my b.s. In gastronomical physics says...Quote:
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Right at the bottom it says... " totally legit and shit"
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Originally Posted by 7oddisdead
ive had several sierra Nevada torpedos this evening, so im revisiting this thread.
we're nearing the end of the story, so to speak. that makes me look at things we could possibly discuss in this thread.
ground zero
the little ones/ink
the family/durai/scratch/angel
just exactly what the virus is
for tonight, ill be visiting the virus.
many of us on here in the early days of the story took note of the "ant theory". there's also the pack mentality of individual groups of zoms "hunting". then we have the hive mentality of all the zoms seemingly behaving on group commands.
ive put forth the idea before of a fast forward evolution idea, and I still stand by that idea. without delving to deeply into ground zero or what happened there, lets assume that whatever came from the ground there is foreign to anything we as humans know/have known/will know.
now, if we are to analyse what a foreign body, on a viral level could do. given the opportunity to go through the proper evolutionary chains..it only makes sense to go through all the chains retaining the parts they find most valuable to the continuence of their existence. this leads me to believe that given enough time, the "undead" would reach a point where they have returned to being simply human. the final stage of evolution. jeez, if that is allowed to happen....its like hell on earth. a planet of nothing but the greatest of predators. while I don't believe the story has any sort of underlying social statements like many zombie stories do...its hard to ignore things like that. what does it say about us as a species on this planet, when the greatest group of killers are evolving toward a point of being.... human....again?
have a wild idea? put it here...the more the merrier
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just wanted to note, theres only 3 threads above this one as far as views go in theory threads(@ 9500+ as of this typing). im very proud of that fact. bout a hundred more and its no. 3 couple hundred more and its no. 2 putting right under whos the rat v2.0...that tells me a lot of us are crazy here, its not just me...im ok with that :)
7odd, I like the idea of the evolution fast forward. Not sure if the end result is human this time around though. Will be pretty interesting if we find out where it would progress if this turns out to be what it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7oddisdead
Either way, I think TOWTM has done something to try to take control of it to make his own team/race/species. That freaky f'er used what "nature" gave him and is making it "better" and possibly controllable. That may be why he holds back the Little Ones in Chapter 36, let the old stock/animalistic Zeds soak up the punishment and then the LO's swoop in and make some new stock.
So, TOWTM is super smart and taking advantage of the situation. Did he have some fore knowledge of the situation and prepared ahead of it? Maybe maybe not. Either way, he is trying to make his own super human world domination team....
Is it evolutionary or intelligent design? I think there as an intelligence behind it. Evolution is slow and plodding. It's fluke and luck. Tanya and Saul's immunity passed through their children is Evolution. Evolution gave us lions and tigers and cheetahs. Intelligent design gave us toy poodles and great danes. Evolution doesn't really want. It is more the rare event that finds 1 winner after thousands of losses.
I think there is an intelligence behind what is happening in LA.
But like everything in this story there is a wait a minute. Is Kalani bragging and saying my zombies are nastier than your's or are there really nastier ones in Hawaii than biters, Beheomeths, runners and Ink. Damn!!!
Never mind.
Man....im not going down the "god v. Darwin" road...of course there seems to be intelligence behind what's happening and if we want to get all proper with our terminology then yes, its more intelligent design than evolution. The context that comes with that phrase just feels wrong to me.
But im not sure I like the intelligent design idea either. The way I see it, what's happening is like a thousand years of evolution happening within weeks. If you want to call that intelligent...then yes I'll agree 100%...but I still see it as evolution.
Guess I kinda did go god-v-Darwin...
That was probably a bad choice on my part. I did not mean a god intelligent design. Grrrr.....
But, I guess I see chemistry as much as evolution. I do not see evolution as much as I see building a better mouse trap, but as I said in the other thread, I see conspiracy not random events
I think we using different words for the same thing. Tends to happen on days like today where were the only two going back and forth on threads....ive missed this shit man, I really have.
Ok, I think ink or someone higher up than ink is building a better mouse trap. The "virus" may be a component, but (s)he can also use anabolic steroids, selective hosts, etc. is that what you see or do you see the virus driving it's own evolution?
Little of both actually.
I feel like virus is driving itself forward on the regulars. I feel like that's why we have seen home behavior and hunting patterns evolve over the course of the story. The special zombies, yea couldn't agree more, they are fucked with. Best analogy I can think for my feeling on them is superhero bonzai trees...they would have been badasses before, but a snip here, a snip there....inject some of this and lets see what happens.
Whatever the term, I think the base cause is what created the "normal" biters. That's as far as evolution/whatever has taken humanity to this point in the story. The crash course in Intelligent Design is being perpetrated by either TOWTM or some power controlling him. The key questions that brings up are: a) is the root cause man-made or otherwise, b) how is the design of the Little Ones (and earlier special biters) being done, and c) who is doing all the work?
D) all of the above.
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Originally Posted by 7oddisdead
back to address this with a sober mind.
so ive been doing this thing for a long time now, a few years at least. one thing that hasn't really changed is my feelings on all the above questions. nothing here is new info. all the same shit (my opinion)Quote:
Originally Posted by scbubba
the outbreak started due to the "haze" coming from ground zero. in my opinion the haze is actually a virus of sorts thats "assimilating" life on this planet. the design of the special ones is perpetrated by TOWTM or pinstripes (depending on your opinion). why he does it, I have no idea. I cant explain what goes on in the mind of a schizophrenic and neither can I. (:)) and the "work" the organizing, the leadership, all of it stems from him..and him alone.
now the part I don't really talk about.
the virus is alien. the reason the haze stays in Inglewood is its protecting whats in the cracks. the little ones??? they came from the cracks...they were not engineered or whatever. ink numbered them so they could be identified, and they would have their own identity. ink is the ringleader behind all this...but hes also the human/alien liason of sorts.
how crazy would that be? what if you, out of all the human race knew...a alien (to us at least) species existed on this earth? would you risk everything, the human race, the earth itself..just to be one who bought them to us? not ganna lie, if this were the actual scenario, and im not quite delusional enough to think it is..i cant say that I wouldn't do the same thing...I mean imagine seeing a totally new species close to human, but not quite...and your the one who found them? I would do that.
the beauty of this story is all the possible angles that COULD be taken with the info we have.
I haven't been around here as long as you have but I've also seen the same things keep coming up. The good thing about it is that, as the episodes keep coming, new (sometimes relevant) info comes with the episodes. So some of the the theories get revised and some of the same ones get tossed back into the mix. The signal to noise ratio (new stuff vs same old stuff) gets pretty low at times...Quote:
Originally Posted by 7oddisdead
I'm down with a virus origin story. Not sure if it's an assimilation or just super virus activity. I'm still a little up in the air as to whether or not the "cause" only made the normals or also made the few specials we have in the early days (runner, jumper, behemoth). I've been leaning toward these specials, and then the Little Ones, coming from the mind of someone else. And that mind, crazy or not, is in control....Quote:
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I like your scenario.... and your question.Quote:
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I'm not really sure I could say no to that situation, either.
It could even be looked at from a few different angles. One being "I will have power and authority under our new alien overlords!" and another could be "If I do this, I may be able to help the human race." A different angle would be "I'm so curious about this discovery I 'm going to try to learn as much as possible" where the curiosity ends up unleashing this on the world.
I think you hit on one of the main things that keeps people going on about theories (crackpot and tinfoil hat types included) here in the forum. At this point, anyone could be right and just about anything of the ideas could be relevant. Great writing and storytelling usually wins in the end....Quote:
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Just pulling in one of my early observations. The first zombies are described as covered in Scars and Bruises by Michael. The general populace is not covered in scars. This implies repeated damage and healing as if subjected to experimentation
Whatever it is at ground zero, it gets past standard gas mask protection, unless CJ sabotaged that also. Assumption, whatever is at ground zero it is at a very high concentration and it only takes a little to have an effect. This is an Airborn contagion and really bad news.
In chapter One Riley does say the closer they where when asked how long did it take for people to change. CJ also says "if they get close" when she does not want to have her leg amputated. This is a bit of a reach, but I have felt that the zombies themselves have an area of affect in addition to the bite or scratch. Maybe just sweat or water vapor from respiration.
Assuming you are right about the little ones coming from inside the Earth and a subterranean ape theory. One of the things they might have is extra thick finger nails to dig. Going further with the Ant-Ape, the majority of the Ants in the colony are underground, Saul asks, where did everybody go? Something else, animals in the dark can have light-blindness. Just sit in the dark for an hour and turn the lights on.
Victor has been exposed twice and Pegs once. Did they not get a high enough dose or do they have their own partial immunity, kind of like a higher tolerance?
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another thing with the victor/higher immunity bit. he was in a close confine fight with one of the little ones. going on the premise that the zoms have a certain amount of whatevers at ground zero. it would stand to reason that he should have felt some affects in that scene.
heh....we are delusional. turn my brain off please.
Going back to the underground/ant hill in Inglewood/colony of little ones idea.
This is all just speculation and connecting possible things( as per my usual)
Going with arts idea of ant-apes with a certain amount of night blindness. Lets piece together how this scenario could work.
Say the little ones did come from underground. With the sensitivity to sunlight they would have, keeping them in dark areas would he paramount. We loosely can assume that the little ones were in the basement at the hospital. We can also "loosely" assume that one of the first hunting trips they went on was at the base when kalani and angel first encountered them. While not an underground location, it is a dark, cool quiet place.
Now, knowing what we do about the basic behavior changes of the zoms. Could we not assume the same would be true for the little ones? Could not their growth,intelligence,strength,etc be attributed to that? I mean, that we are aware of...the only other ones to show physical "growth" are the behemoths. And whether or not that is artificially done is up for debate. So I have to question if the little ones were ever human. Much as what is said in the show. Also, who's to say that there isn't more of them still at ground zero if that's the case?
I dunno, pretty crazy shit...if you actually let your mind wander down the side roads.
Datu is an alien.
Today I listened to WND #60, and it struck me, when Nikvoodoo and scbubba talked about the baby to be born ...
A few days after little Henry has entered the world, something bad's gonna happen. For whatever reason them zombos find the baby and get it. Because they know: Ink wants it. Ink needs to create Little One no #13. *dundunDUNNNN!*
Then Saul's gonna be pissed big time, and Burt's hour has come, because - as you may remember from the hospital - Burt's purpose has finally come. Saul and Burt will move to the hospital, medically, chemically, and biologically prepared by Tanya. And we should not forget Victor ...
The theme is simple: Family ties. Saul and Lizzy and Henry are the youngest members of the family; Tanya is Ma to Saul and Grandma to Henry; OK, Burt's not really grandpa, but is almost in the position. And as you all know it: Victor's da Bro. So "The Waltons - Next Generation" strike back, zombocalypse style.
Best wishes!
Liam
I can get behind this ^^^
Geez! I hope that the whole baby story will include something like...Quote:
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yyyyeeeeeaaaa....no.Quote:
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Damn, I knew that I have forgotten to put a "not" somewhere -> "not include" instead of "include". Sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7oddisdead
I was being a smartass yabc, dry humor does not carry over the internet well....hell, I bet most people think half my posts in this thread are serious.
of course, half of them are..and a third of those have been half right. If this were baseball, id be batting in the number five spot, possibly sixth depending on the lineup and whos pitching.(its totally baseball season/might have cardinal fever atm)
so this is not a new idea. but its one id like to consider. ( im taking a version of the original premise from grognaurd)<
so what if kimmet was in contact with durai?
the basic idea here is simple, kimmet was also a part of the family. now that could explain a few things about his behavior. that could explain why he had his niece's body brought back. that could explain his lack of communication with other military branches...hell it could explain a lot of things....but.
heres one ive yet to hear.
what if "the family" wasn't just a bunch of Mafioso fuckers? have we ever been explicitly told that the family is in fact part of the mob/a mob/IS the mob? not to my recollection. now, im not saying they were/are a bunch of saints..but im trying to think a bit deeper here. im currently racking my brain for some kind of "keeper of secrets" type group from history. but who needs history when you have harry potter.
http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Secret_Keeper
this is a VERY huge leap to make when it come to trying to bridge a gap like this, bbuuuuuuuuuuutt. in its own way it makes sense. if durai (or someone within his "family circle") knew of what COULD happen in Inglewood, then that could explain how he knew to be in one of the most relatively safe locations he could be at the time (prison), have the obviously soft guy there as well(latch), how scratch knew to break them out fast..how they knew to plan VERY early on to take out the "nest"...basically durai seemed FAR to on top of things to have simply been a "mob guy", and if it wasn't for scratch being "slightly unhinged" he would have turned the colony into exactly what CJ has, albeit slightly more "my way or the highway" ...and with that we have kimmet, whose military connections would put him in the best position to move people from his region (southwestern region) to a safe, secure location. and do it fairly quickly at that. he also seemed to be (without much luck) going with the same plan of "blow the fucking nest up" as durai..(I know that's probly just military strategy, but it fits here..so suck eggs trabek)
I don't know, I still have a hard time bringing those two (durai/kimmet) together in a cohesive way..but I can see how it could be possible..shit, anythings possible when your just connecting dots. but at this point, I do feel like theres some things we are missing, and have for a while now.
todd out
It does not have to be Durai. What if it was Marcus? It could even be someone we have not met. The ring has three connected circles. Scratch explicitly says the other family.
I am still perplexed by "The Colony". To me this implies an offshoot from a larger body. I would expect a name like sanctuary or the fortress, the enclave, or something to be spontaneously named in an emergency. Colony seems to be an existing name.
Do not forget, when Pegs is writing in her journal in season one she calls Michael and the soldiers Guardians. It could be nothing, but it is curious. Other, Pegs echos the colony when she hears Victor say it for the first time. Similarly, She says Marcus is in charge when Tanya first says it. Could be a theatre technique to help the Audiance get it, but it could be more.
:tinfoil:
Please make sure your trays and seats are in the upright and locked position...
The Family is bigger than organized crime, but the trouble is I oscillate between Apocolyptic cult on one side to ancient protector of humanity on the other.
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This last one was nice.NOPE! You SUMMA bip.. gut..cuck.. GUN!! All the smickety smack scridibbly spork you and Yari gave me for that crackpot theory! Argghhuurrfrrigggttcc!!!
REP ME MUTHA FUCKA :mad:
All in good fun 7oddisdead, all in good fun.