crackpot theories and thoughts

[Grognaurd]

Ok, I think ink or someone higher up than ink is building a better mouse trap. The "virus" may be a component, but (s)he can also use anabolic steroids, selective hosts, etc. is that what you see or do you see the virus driving it's own evolution?

[7oddisdead]

Little of both actually.

I feel like virus is driving itself forward on the regulars. I feel like that's why we have seen home behavior and hunting patterns evolve over the course of the story. The special zombies, yea couldn't agree more, they are fucked with. Best analogy I can think for my feeling on them is superhero bonzai trees...they would have been badasses before, but a snip here, a snip there....inject some of this and lets see what happens.

[scbubba]

Whatever the term, I think the base cause is what created the "normal" biters. That's as far as evolution/whatever has taken humanity to this point in the story. The crash course in Intelligent Design is being perpetrated by either TOWTM or some power controlling him. The key questions that brings up are: a) is the root cause man-made or otherwise, b) how is the design of the Little Ones (and earlier special biters) being done, and c) who is doing all the work?

[7oddisdead]

D) all of the above.

[scbubba]

D) all of the above.

Well, yeah. There is that too....

[7oddisdead]

back to address this with a sober mind.

The key questions that brings up are: a) is the root cause man-made or otherwise, b) how is the design of the Little Ones (and earlier special biters) being done, and c) who is doing all the work?

so ive been doing this thing for a long time now, a few years at least. one thing that hasn't really changed is my feelings on all the above questions. nothing here is new info. all the same shit (my opinion)

the outbreak started due to the "haze" coming from ground zero. in my opinion the haze is actually a virus of sorts thats "assimilating" life on this planet. the design of the special ones is perpetrated by TOWTM or pinstripes (depending on your opinion). why he does it, I have no idea. I cant explain what goes on in the mind of a schizophrenic and neither can I. () and the "work" the organizing, the leadership, all of it stems from him..and him alone.

now the part I don't really talk about.

the virus is alien. the reason the haze stays in Inglewood is its protecting whats in the cracks. the little ones??? they came from the cracks...they were not engineered or whatever. ink numbered them so they could be identified, and they would have their own identity. ink is the ringleader behind all this...but hes also the human/alien liason of sorts.

how crazy would that be? what if you, out of all the human race knew...a alien (to us at least) species existed on this earth? would you risk everything, the human race, the earth itself..just to be one who bought them to us? not ganna lie, if this were the actual scenario, and im not quite delusional enough to think it is..i cant say that I wouldn't do the same thing...I mean imagine seeing a totally new species close to human, but not quite...and your the one who found them? I would do that.

the beauty of this story is all the possible angles that COULD be taken with the info we have.

[scbubba]

so ive been doing this thing for a long time now, a few years at least. one thing that hasn't really changed is my feelings on all the above questions. nothing here is new info. all the same shit (my opinion)

I haven't been around here as long as you have but I've also seen the same things keep coming up. The good thing about it is that, as the episodes keep coming, new (sometimes relevant) info comes with the episodes. So some of the the theories get revised and some of the same ones get tossed back into the mix. The signal to noise ratio (new stuff vs same old stuff) gets pretty low at times...

the outbreak started due to the "haze" coming from ground zero. in my opinion the haze is actually a virus of sorts thats "assimilating" life on this planet. the design of the special ones is perpetrated by TOWTM or pinstripes (depending on your opinion). why he does it, I have no idea. I cant explain what goes on in the mind of a schizophrenic and neither can I. () and the "work" the organizing, the leadership, all of it stems from him..and him alone.

I'm down with a virus origin story. Not sure if it's an assimilation or just super virus activity. I'm still a little up in the air as to whether or not the "cause" only made the normals or also made the few specials we have in the early days (runner, jumper, behemoth). I've been leaning toward these specials, and then the Little Ones, coming from the mind of someone else. And that mind, crazy or not, is in control....

now the part I don't really talk about.

the virus is alien. the reason the haze stays in Inglewood is its protecting whats in the cracks. the little ones??? they came from the cracks...they were not engineered or whatever. ink numbered them so they could be identified, and they would have their own identity. ink is the ringleader behind all this...but hes also the human/alien liason of sorts.

how crazy would that be? what if you, out of all the human race knew...a alien (to us at least) species existed on this earth? would you risk everything, the human race, the earth itself..just to be one who bought them to us? not ganna lie, if this were the actual scenario, and im not quite delusional enough to think it is..i cant say that I wouldn't do the same thing...I mean imagine seeing a totally new species close to human, but not quite...and your the one who found them? I would do that.

I like your scenario.... and your question.
I'm not really sure I could say no to that situation, either.
It could even be looked at from a few different angles. One being "I will have power and authority under our new alien overlords!" and another could be "If I do this, I may be able to help the human race." A different angle would be "I'm so curious about this discovery I 'm going to try to learn as much as possible" where the curiosity ends up unleashing this on the world.

the beauty of this story is all the possible angles that COULD be taken with the info we have.

I think you hit on one of the main things that keeps people going on about theories (crackpot and tinfoil hat types included) here in the forum. At this point, anyone could be right and just about anything of the ideas could be relevant. Great writing and storytelling usually wins in the end....

[Grognaurd]

Just pulling in one of my early observations. The first zombies are described as covered in Scars and Bruises by Michael. The general populace is not covered in scars. This implies repeated damage and healing as if subjected to experimentation

Whatever it is at ground zero, it gets past standard gas mask protection, unless CJ sabotaged that also. Assumption, whatever is at ground zero it is at a very high concentration and it only takes a little to have an effect. This is an Airborn contagion and really bad news.

In chapter One Riley does say the closer they where when asked how long did it take for people to change. CJ also says "if they get close" when she does not want to have her leg amputated. This is a bit of a reach, but I have felt that the zombies themselves have an area of affect in addition to the bite or scratch. Maybe just sweat or water vapor from respiration.

Assuming you are right about the little ones coming from inside the Earth and a subterranean ape theory. One of the things they might have is extra thick finger nails to dig. Going further with the Ant-Ape, the majority of the Ants in the colony are underground, Saul asks, where did everybody go? Something else, animals in the dark can have light-blindness. Just sit in the dark for an hour and turn the lights on.

Victor has been exposed twice and Pegs once. Did they not get a high enough dose or do they have their own partial immunity, kind of like a higher tolerance?

[7oddisdead]

Just pulling in one of my early observations. The first zombies are described as covered in Scars and Bruises by Michael. The general populace is not covered in scars. This implies repeated damage and healing as if subjected to experimentation

Whatever it is at ground zero, it gets past standard gas mask protection, unless CJ sabotaged that also. Assumption, whatever is at ground zero it is at a very high concentration and it only takes a little to have an effect. This is an Airborn contagion and really bad news.

In chapter One Riley does say the closer they where when asked how long did it take for people to change. CJ also says "if they get close" when she does not want to have her leg amputated. This is a bit of a reach, but I have felt that the zombies themselves have an area of affect in addition to the bite or scratch. Maybe just sweat or water vapor from respiration.

Assuming you are right about the little ones coming from inside the Earth and a subterranean ape theory. One of the things they might have is extra thick finger nails to dig. Going further with the Ant-Ape, the majority of the Ants in the colony are underground, Saul asks, where did everybody go? Something else, animals in the dark can have light-blindness. Just sit in the dark for an hour and turn the lights on.

Victor has been exposed twice and Pegs once. Did they not get a high enough dose or do they have their own partial immunity, kind of like a higher tolerance?

yup. we, sir....are on the same page.

another thing with the victor/higher immunity bit. he was in a close confine fight with one of the little ones. going on the premise that the zoms have a certain amount of whatevers at ground zero. it would stand to reason that he should have felt some affects in that scene.

heh....we are delusional. turn my brain off please.

[7oddisdead]

Going back to the underground/ant hill in Inglewood/colony of little ones idea.

This is all just speculation and connecting possible things( as per my usual)

Going with arts idea of ant-apes with a certain amount of night blindness. Lets piece together how this scenario could work.

Say the little ones did come from underground. With the sensitivity to sunlight they would have, keeping them in dark areas would he paramount. We loosely can assume that the little ones were in the basement at the hospital. We can also "loosely" assume that one of the first hunting trips they went on was at the base when kalani and angel first encountered them. While not an underground location, it is a dark, cool quiet place.

Now, knowing what we do about the basic behavior changes of the zoms. Could we not assume the same would be true for the little ones? Could not their growth,intelligence,strength,etc be attributed to that? I mean, that we are aware of...the only other ones to show physical "growth" are the behemoths. And whether or not that is artificially done is up for debate. So I have to question if the little ones were ever human. Much as what is said in the show. Also, who's to say that there isn't more of them still at ground zero if that's the case?

I dunno, pretty crazy shit...if you actually let your mind wander down the side roads.