Hmm...guess I haven't been listening to the same podcast then. Cause I could have sworn durai was in prison, as was latch...covering for a crime scratch committed. And they are still surrounding themselves with prisoners...and we have heard discussion of rings, family, protecting their own, etc...hmm...yea, sure does sound like something other than a crime family to me..id love nothing more than to be wrong, that would be incredibly interesting...but sadly..a spade is sometimes ...a spade