Durai

**yarri** · Mar 31st, 2011, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by itsallgoodie

SPOILER

Your idea makes me hopeful. I have a bad feeling about Lizzy.

**nikvoodoo** · Mar 31st, 2011, 03:40 PM

Just a reminder, spoilers are allowed in this thread. Spoiler tag isn't needed.

**itsallgoodie** · Mar 31st, 2011, 04:05 PM

I wasnt sure so i figured just to play it safe. whoops.

**nikvoodoo** · Mar 31st, 2011, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by itsallgoodie

I wasnt sure so i figured just to play it safe. whoops.

Understood. Spoilers are allowed in episode discussion, theories, and character forums. Thank you for being sensitive to the spooked rule!

**timberwoof** · Mar 31st, 2011, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by bvglee

Durai sounds, former military to me, not regular military for that matter, but a former SF or Army Ranger, minimum. Why?, his marksmanship skills and the way he leads/trains the Mallers, it sound 100% military training and experience in leading/training indigenous forces an turning them into soldiers from scratch (no, not THAT Scratch). He might be a disenchanted Vet with a sh**tload of unconventional warfare experience under his belt, that went to the "Dark Side", and used his knowledge, not only to survive and succeed while serving time, but to raise as a ruthless but effective leader when TSHTF.

(BTW: Gatekeeper and his goons are not even in the same league, they are dead meat already, I'm sure.)

I'm with you on this, if not prior military SF, he had some kind of training in tactics and marksmanship. Because Kc is prior Army, I'm gonna say Durai is prior Marines. HAHA j/k

**wh33t** · Apr 5th, 2011, 04:26 PM

Durai to me just sounds like a hardcore criminal. We are also under the impression that the Mallers are ex-prisoners right?

To me he doesn't seem like ex-military except for his marksman skills. He attacked the Tower and got his ass completely handed to him. There is even mention in the corresponding chapter that says easy it is to defend, rather than attack and also another mention of vertical height advantage over your enemy. If Durai was some kind of wicked sick military person, you'd think he would have known this and attacked differently. Personally I would have just arrived in the night with a small crew and tossed Pipe bombs everywhere.

**nikvoodoo** · Apr 5th, 2011, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by wh33t

Durai to me just sounds like a hardcore criminal. We are also under the impression that the Mallers are ex-prisoners right?

To me he doesn't seem like ex-military except for his marksman skills. He attacked the Tower and got his ass completely handed to him. There is even mention in the corresponding chapter that says easy it is to defend, rather than attack and also another mention of vertical height advantage over your enemy. If Durai was some kind of wicked sick military person, you'd think he would have known this and attacked differently. Personally I would have just arrived in the night with a small crew and tossed Pipe bombs everywhere.

He did indeed get his ass handed to him, but there are countless examples of brilliant military minds being defeated by forces they underestimated. George Washington, General Cornwallis, Napoleon etc all got defeated in battles but they were excellent military tacticians.

The point was Durai wanted to Tower for his own purposes. If he peppered the Tower with pipe bombs and made it unlivable, what would be the purpose? If his desire was to destroy the Tower, you're right. He probably would have bombed the tower in the dead of night without trying to draw any attention to himself or his little group of miscreants.

**Onslaught** · Apr 5th, 2011, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by nikvoodoo

He did indeed get his ass handed to him, but there are countless examples of brilliant military minds being defeated by forces they underestimated. George Washington, General Cornwallis, Napoleon etc all got defeated in battles but they were excellent military tacticians.

The point was Durai wanted to Tower for his own purposes. If he peppered the Tower with pipe bombs and made it unlivable, what would be the purpose? If his desire was to destroy the Tower, you're right. He probably would have bombed the tower in the dead of night without trying to draw any attention to himself or his little group of miscreants.

This supports the theory that Durai is dead. If he was killed during the war, then Scratch would have been driven into a rage and that could have been the reason she threw the pipe bombs. Durai wanted the tower, first he wanted to move his people into it at least a few of them. While they were talking on the radio he said that theirs was already so fortified and safe and he wanted to get inside. Why would he destroy it if he wanted it. My best bet is that scratch wanted revenge and nothing else.

**nikvoodoo** · Apr 5th, 2011, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by Onslaught

This supports the theory that Durai is dead. If he was killed during the war, then Scratch would have been driven into a rage and that could have been the reason she threw the pipe bombs. Durai wanted the tower, first he wanted to move his people into it at least a few of them. While they were talking on the radio he said that theirs was already so fortified and safe and he wanted to get inside. Why would he destroy it if he wanted it. My best bet is that scratch wanted revenge and nothing else.

Actually, it doesn't support it. If Durai had been killed when everyone seems to think he was killed (from the Shots Heard Round the World) then why wasn't Scratch's first rage filled action to throw pipe bombs? They tried testing the defenses first on all sides.

Remember what the guy in the background said after Latch was killed "He said not to" in reference to Scratch taking what is presumed to be a pipe bomb or Molotov Cocktail.