Chapter 45-3: Distorted Truths

[LiamKerrington]

We're talking about Riley using torture versus Scratch using torture. Perceived evils. Motivations for characters. You're arguing something I'm not. Can't have a discussion without you telling me I'm wrong about everything because one character is clearly more evil than another. That's a stupid approach to a conversation. I'm saying they're the same act. You're saying something completely irrelevant, and seem butthurt that I'm not just saying, "Oh, lord you are totally right!" Your own words state that you are assuming character intent based on how you perceive their actions throughout the story. How is that incorrect? They are YOUR OWN WORDS. I didn't put them in your mouth.

Just for the record: At no point I spoke in favor of Riley torturing Tardust. Obviously our mud-wrestling about Scratch and Kalani has made you miss this very specific point. I am sorry; my walls of words must have blurred this very important "fact" about my opinion on things.
To be crystal clear: I don't appreciate, like, enjoy, look forward to it that Riley might or will torture Tardust or whomever. The opposite is true, because I see no justification or excuse or exculpation for torture - no matter how dark this story may be. And I also don't see how the bitterness, revenge, self-pitty of Riley or anyone could be considered as solid and valid motivations to act like that.* I would not want to relate this (too likely) failing of Riley to the failings of Scratch, because either way: failings are wrong.
edit: Aside from that: I started this argument because I did not feel comfortable with being treated like "all" WA fans willing to accept Riley torturing Tardust, because I think besides me there are some (many) other WA fans raising doubts about such an action. But this, too, was drowned in this long, rich, challenging discussion. /edit

Best wishes!
Liam

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- I implied it here: http://www.zombiepodcast.com/forum/s...6306#post76306
- I would regret her torturing Tardust here: http://www.zombiepodcast.com/forum/s...6350#post76350
- I am explicit about this here at the very beginning of our argument: http://www.zombiepodcast.com/forum/s...6372#post76372
- And my opinion about Riley's general current behaviour shines through this posting: http://www.zombiepodcast.com/forum/s...6432#post76432
There you go. You won't find me banalizing, accepting or welcoming the foreshadowed torture by Riley.