The Zombies heat status

[nikvoodoo]

My bad.
I listened to it again and realized I'd heard it wrong. I thought it was something like: "I was halfway through before I'd even begun", but it was more like:"It was halfway through already before I'd even begun."

No worries. I refer back to my mistake of Saul being shot with Shirley. Nobody is right all the time.

[Beaumont]

Well here's something to chew on, Depending on how quick the decay of the zombies is, also in relation to the season and location in which the story is taking place if they generate heat they would decay faster. So if survivors we're to just find a way to wait it out would the zombies even still be a threat with no meat or tissue just bones to attack you with? That also raises the question of how the Zombie disease is contracted, blood based, teeth based, some other micro organism or maybe it's nanobots taking control?

I'm not sure what type of "zombies" these are yet because it seems as if there is no decay but instead more of a transformation to some other type of being. They have these big brute types then they have jumpers and who knows what else. I don't think there seems to be any indication of decay but they do seem to be changing or evolving. This is a very different take on what a "zombie" is.

[Eviebae]

I'm not sure what type of "zombies" these are yet because it seems as if there is no decay but instead more of a transformation to some other type of being.

Yeah, but I find pseudozomboidesques hard to type.

Do you think there's an end stage?

[timberwoof]

I've been thinking about this a little. I have heard of two types so far but not very sure. One that have died then reanimate, and ones that turn. Is there a possibility the smart ones are those that just turn. Being that there higher brain functions are still working at the time of infection, but the ones that are just "regulars" are those that have died and come back because the basic animal instincts are the only that were reanimated within the brain. We already know they don't feel pain so that tells you right there some of their bodily functions don't work. Sound to me it's a mutated form of the "old school" zombie virus we are all use to in the past. Makes me think of Walking Dead meets Resident Evil meets I Am Legend the movie. Its a new type of Zombie.

As for the heat signature I think there is a big difference between them. The "turned" ones may have a higher temp than "regulars" due to energy expenditure, and the "reanimated" one may have a very low temps due to energy expenditure but loss of more bodily functions or abilities. But either way I think they have a lower body temp than a regular human. Either that or the body temps are much higher than humans and they are trying to keep themselves cooler which is the reason they started colonizing the ice arena, but when the refrigeration equipment failed it all thawed out. Don't know there are to many factors.

[HaveCrowBarWillTravel]

Wolf,

that's the thing, we don't have any instances where the dead have reanimated. Everyone so far is "Turned." Here's another thing for you, some do feel pain. Others have shown fear and are cognizant enough to keep their heads protected (behemoth attacking Angel and Kalani)

[VeritableHero]

I'm not sure what type of "zombies" these are yet because it seems as if there is no decay but instead more of a transformation to some other type of being. They have these big brute types then they have jumpers and who knows what else. I don't think there seems to be any indication of decay but they do seem to be changing or evolving. This is a very different take on what a "zombie" is.

I disagree. In the episode about the boat off shore, Pegs and Micheal indicated that they appeared to be starving. They looked like they were dying. That's an indication of decay. It sounds like it takes them a long time to decay and/or tire out but at least they do!

[timberwoof]

Wolf,

that's the thing, we don't have any instances where the dead have reanimated. Everyone so far is "Turned." Here's another thing for you, some do feel pain. Others have shown fear and are cognizant enough to keep their heads protected (behemoth attacking Angel and Kalani)

Sorry by reanimated, I meant the ones that die and then come back. The turned are the ones that are mostly alive when the virus takes affect.

[Saint]

decay of the zombies ... if they generate heat they would decay faster. ...That also raises the question of how the Zombie disease is contracted, blood based, teeth based, some other micro organism or maybe it's nanobots taking control?

lot of assumptions there MrScott that I've been pondering myself:
Decay of zombies: I envision partial zombie bodies still walking around (ala "The Walking Dead") but will have to go re-listen for examples.
Zombie disease: we know humans can be "changed", we know it appears to be about as fast as "28 days later" in at least one case (Tommy), we think its from some immediate contact transmission (blood/body fluid/nano-bots) and is apparently not an "airborne pathogen" (at least not in severe doses) and burning zombie bodies doesn't carry the pathogen to others. Some levels of skin-to-skin contact have been shown to have no effect on normal humans.
Disease is still a subjective word (ala Michael's reluctance to call "them" zombies)
so the archetypal definition of "zombie" (the walking dead, undead, living dead - what have you) doesn't fit - these "things" ARE ALIVE (by virtue of their animation, their quest of food sources, their coordinated tactics, their use of smell - necessitating some level of cardio-pulmonary system) and so on - which leads me to think the title of our beloved podcast is a double entendre!

EDIT: sorry again - got to the end of page one and started typing - before realizing there was a page 2, 3 and 4!
Still - looks like a bunch of us are pointed in the same direction, which makes me think: if this happened today and "WE" were in the tower, chances are we would all be playing "Doctor Lab Coat" and experimenting on captured creatures...

[itsallgoodie]

Hmm this is all good discussion and i think i do have to agree with the point that they must have heat-due to they way they eat and move ect. I think you all thought of more than I did originally. but i think i have thought of something that will indirectly shoot down the idea that they are either noticeably warm or cold.

In what i think is chapter Ten. When Datu is captured and brought to the Arena, he is dragged by the zombies. He never yells or mentions that they are hot or that their hands are cold. I feel like Kc would have put something like that in there if he thought it was some sort of information that we should know. Along with this Samantha never wrote anything about it in Datu's journal nor did Datu. I feel like it would be something you would notice and think was odd, if when a zombie was carrying you it had extremely warm hands or cold hands. Anyway I hope this all makes sense.

[StickUpKid]

I gotta go with wicked Sid they probably just use it to tell things apart. But they mentioned not having many survivors show up why would they still use them