Chapter 41-2 Eye Of The Storm

[Unit]

One theory I just thought about. What if Randy saved Michael somehow at the waterworks but got bit/scratched in the process; he asks Michael to shoot him so he doesn't turn into a zed but Michael can't stomach to shoot his savior (similar to how he won't shoot Datu now even though the other soldiers want to). Randy turns and Michael feels guilty that he let him turn into a zombie and others have died because he couldn't pull the trigger before. Now he is trying to right his own wrong, but he can't tell anyone because then people would blame him for some of what is happening. And we know Michael doesn't like to take blame (jambalaya MRE wrapper anyone? Didn't read Carl's report about little ones turning people into other little ones?)

Finally, I get one of my theories right


A new episode comes out and gets released early even, and I still don't get a chance to listen to it for a few days... you just can't win.


I am glad to get clarification on what happened to Michael's arm and background on Randy. I see a lot of people talking on here about Randy maybe siding with the humans and I can't seem to get my head around that. How do the actions of Randy show that he may be siding with the humans? Trying to take Tanya, attacking the Colony, biting Datu.... where/how have any of his actions benefited the humans? KC is amazing and we may find out later that that is true and I just can't seem to get above it all and see the whole picture, but for now it just doesn't seem logical.

I am hoping that the tests on Datu's blood reveal something important that show that Datu is not in fact turning, or is turning REALLY slowly. Datu says that he will fix the water pump, but he wants Michael to take him out before he has a chance to turn. That is a balancing act of how long to let him work and when to pull the plug.

I find the change in Puck's attitude interesting. Last time they seemed pissed at Michael for not blowing Datu's head off on the spot. Now he seems sympathetic and even volunteers to help draw his blood? People's mind and moods can change but it just seemed a pretty drastic swing of the pendulum. Maybe he just is seeing what Michael was feeling, or maybe he wants Datu around now after hearing CJ's story about the water situation and so he gets why we still need King Datu to finish the job. I don't know.

[Witch_Doctor]

Great, now we know the Randy story, but what about the arena? Did Datu 'look away' from the hockey rink or did he she what happened or was about to happen to Samantha?

[Red Shirt]

Yea, I am a fan of the families and conspiracy. I that I also add that Angel has his ring with him. If it was simply something that tied him to organized crime, I do not think it is something to have with normal day to day activities. But, a birthrite from a new world order once it starts...

Here's a thought running in the vein of "identification." From Chapter 29, part 1/3 at 5:18:

Kimmet: "...but before we get to that point, I'm going to need your ID. I was told you brought it. Have it on ya?"
Michael: "Yeah. Here."
Kimmet: "Surprised you still had this. Good thing, because we don't have access to records."
Michael: "We were planning on coming here. It would have been stupid to leave it behind."

A hint?

If we are to go down the NWO conspiracy rabbit hole, it seems to me that like Michael's ID card, Angels ring could have served him as "identification" that granted him access to refuge.

[ZombieWildfire]

i'm going to assume that Randy's biting of Datu was completely intentional to the last detail.
(from what it sounds like...)
Randy (possibly) waits for the sidearms to be emptied
He calls Datu as 'his' - "Mine!"
Randy drags him away from the group, then bites him
He then orders Datu to "Go."
Datu doesn't move, so Randy pulls him along (Datu thinking he's taking him away)
Randy finally says "Leave" and jets, leaving Datu alone

to me, it sounds like Randy is trying to keep his 'turning' of Datu kinda secrect, or at least partially hidden from the other Zombies. Maybe this is some sort of 'cry for help'? from TOWTM? i don't know.

Keep in mind, the words spoken by Randy could also have been for his minion-Zeds. "mine", "go", "Leave", are all pretty basic and to the point commands.

the other side of this is that Randy purposefully bites Datu and tells him to "go", meaning go back into the colony, where he would turn and potentially ruin their safety. Perhaps Randy knew that Datu would be a slow turner, giving him a better chance to infiltrate the colony first before he turns. Or perhaps it is just Randy's bad luck that Datu is such a slow turner that they've all worked out what is going on and have a plan in place. Perhaps Randy knows that his bite will cause slow turning, which is why he wanted Datu for himself, or perhaps he couldn't trust the normal biters to not kill him entirely.

I actually really hope that this isn't the case, and that indeed Randy is in some way shape or form, on the side of the survivors. But its a possibility I suppose.

Which ever side he is on, it is clear that Randy retains a degree of humanity which many of the others don't seem to have. I guess we just have to wait and see what happens to Datu from now on.

I'm assuming the worst- its the only way to cope with the emotional roller coaster ride that is WA!

[ZombieWildfire]

I find the change in Puck's attitude interesting. Last time they seemed pissed at Michael for not blowing Datu's head off on the spot. Now he seems sympathetic and even volunteers to help draw his blood? People's mind and moods can change but it just seemed a pretty drastic swing of the pendulum. Maybe he just is seeing what Michael was feeling, or maybe he wants Datu around now after hearing CJ's story about the water situation and so he gets why we still need King Datu to finish the job. I don't know.

I'd go with the initial calls to kill Datu as being down to sheer fear and self-protection. Then, his attitude changes as the adrenaline wears off and he sees that they are not in immediate danger. I think it would be hard for anyone to witness Datu's situation and not be touched. I've been thinking "What would I do in that situation?" and the main answer I have come up with is "PANIC LOTS AND CRY MORE", whereas Datu, who is known for being a but hysterical in the past, is actually being quite stoical and brave about the whole thing. Puck and the others would pretty definitely be thinking 'there but for the grace of god go I', and that's got to be pretty sobering.

[7oddisdead]

the other side of this is that Randy purposefully bites Datu and tells him to "go", meaning go back into the colony, where he would turn and potentially ruin their safety. Perhaps Randy knew that Datu would be a slow turner, giving him a better chance to infiltrate the colony first before he turns. Or perhaps it is just Randy's bad luck that Datu is such a slow turner that they've all worked out what is going on and have a plan in place. Perhaps Randy knows that his bite will cause slow turning, which is why he wanted Datu for himself, or perhaps he couldn't trust the normal biters to not kill him entirely.

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randy= the shittiest henchmen ever.

i mean really, think about it. IF he is just doing "what the boss says" then how have any of his assignments been successful? bonered up the raydon run, didn't bring Tanya to the hospital, didn't get a slow turning datu to go back to the colony, i dunno....just makes him out to be a bad Scooby doo villain imo.

while i have no clue what side he may fall on, we do know inklings will kill regulars. so i stand behind the 'getting humans to kill inklings' thing. survival of the fittest, and if your not the fittest...be the most cunning.

[YetAnotherBloodyCheek]

randy= the shittiest henchmen ever.

i mean really, think about it. IF he is just doing "what the boss says" then how have any of his assignments been successful? bonered up the raydon run, didn't bring Tanya to the hospital, didn't get a slow turning datu to go back to the colony, i dunno....just makes him out to be a bad Scooby doo villain imo.

while i have no clue what side he may fall on, we do know inklings will kill regulars. so i stand behind the 'getting humans to kill inklings' thing. survival of the fittest, and if your not the fittest...be the most cunning.

Oh, I think you are too harsh on Randy. The truth is, people like us, we love henchmen. There would not be 23 / 24 (Never Say Never Again) / 25 (Casino Royale TV movie) bond films if there had been at least one proficient henchman. What about all the legions of storm troopers who are abysmal bad at shooting?

First and foremost, people tend to neglect the fact that most henchmen are just Joe Average type of guys.

[Unit]

So awesome haha

[tonyhind86]

I'm so far behind in this forum lately, its almost criminal!

Has anybody mentioned the theory yet that perhaps Randy bit Datu to save him from being attacked by the other biters?

[Witch_Doctor]

I'm so far behind in this forum lately, its almost criminal!

Has anybody mentioned the theory yet that perhaps Randy bit Datu to save him from being attacked by the other biters?

I don't remember anyone suggesting this theory, exactly, but it sounds intriguing. Do, go on.