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    Quote Originally Posted by Unit9014 View Post
    I agree, I don't think what happened with Datu, Glenn and Jay was CJs fault entirely. It was an unfortunate event and like any unfortunate event people are determined to point the finger at someone. They will fight and argue about who is to blame, but sometimes we just need to accept the fact that bad stuff can happen.

    That said, I too am not a fan of CJ and I actually think I am able to pinpoint why. It dawned on me while listening to old episodes. The episode where CJ recounts to Saul and Vic what happened when Kalani came to the tower and how it was later overrun etc.

    CJ tells Sean that Kalani is a pilot and she jokingly says she doesn't 'have one of those'. When they agree to let Kalani stay they jokingly say that 'the queen will permit you to stay'. These jokes have a lot of truth to them. Kalani has been through a lot that day and hasn't slept in a very long time, and they still send him immediately to the basement to start mixing cement and crack jokes about his weight and not being able to work as hard as the others because of it and say if he turns out to not be valuable enough they will dump him. All of these 'jokes' are more true than jest. CJ does not look at people as real people, she looks at herself as the mighty queen and all else are her subjects. They are merely units of production and only good for what they can offer her.

    It seems she sort of held Sean up as her king (and the only one she seemed to care about) and when he was lost she tried to offer Saul the job and was offended that he turned her down. She isn't used to being told no.

    Boiling it down... the reason I don't like her is she doesn't care about the people around her, only what they can do for her. The reason I don't like her is that I doubt she will be sad that Glenn and Jay and Datu may have died or turned, she will not be sad at the loss of good men and friends, she will be upset that her best units of technical production are gone and nothing more.
    I hear you, and I agree with you 100% about CJ's attitude and behaviour in front of others.
    edit:
    I failed to recognize an important detail in Unit9014's posting ... So I need to fix shit ...
    old But I don't see why this makes her responsible for the loss of Glenn and Jay and maybe R2Da2. /old
    new And I, too, don't see why this would make her responsible for the loss of Glenn and Jay and maybe R2Da2./new
    Behaving like shit in general and deciding something specific - these are two entirely different things. She did not send out R2Da2, Glenn and Jay, because she wanted to treat them like objects or functional units as she usually does treat people; she sent them out because they actually insisted to be sent out, and following their arguments she calculated the risks for "her assets" and decided in favor of taking the risk, 'cause the benefit might have been awesome. Ok, the outcome proves her wrong; but does this make her decision a bad one, if so - why? And does this make her fully responsible?

    I already shared my opinion with arguments above; I simply sum it up: not in my opinion, no matter how objectifying she treats other human beings.

    Best wishes!
    Liam
    Last edited by LiamKerrington; Dec 10th, 2013 at 02:57 AM. Reason: Sorry, for over-reacting based on false reading ...
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