Chapter 40-1 Monsters

[Unit]

What drives me the most crazy is the purposeful ambiguity. Even when we think we learned something, there is still uncertainty. For instance, the tattoos. We hear, he bribed Cohen to do it to him. But, is the he referring to Ink or the somebody who smuggled in the pens?

So, now we know that Ink was Tattooed in custody, but not sure if he did it to himself or not. Both possibilities make a good story. I favor it was done against his will, because the term inflicted was also used.

Hell, just going back to Chapter 2 and the TiVo. He was convicted of killing last May. So, does that mean he was convicted one year before the outbreak or was the murder a year before the outbreak and he was only recently convicted?

Getting all What was the councillor's name? Nick Rivers? What does the pregnant PhD psychiatrist want to name her baby boy? Nicholas? Do I have that right?

I'll have to go back and listen to the exact wording again but I am pretty sure the TiVo doesn't use the word convicted when talking about the murders. I believe it says he was to appear in court for murders last May but that he had accepted a deal to go to a mental institution instead of prison.

[scbubba]

I'll have to go back and listen to the exact wording again but I am pretty sure the TiVo doesn't use the word convicted when talking about the murders. I believe it says he was to appear in court for murders last May but that he had accepted a deal to go to a mental institution instead of prison.

I think it does say he was convicted but there is also the mention of a plea of insanity being accepted. I think he was being transported for either sentencing or to make the actual plea.

EtA: the recording does mention transport to a mental health facility. I don't think it mentions transport to the court house directly.....

[Witch_Doctor]

I'll have to go back and listen to the exact wording again but I am pretty sure the TiVo doesn't use the word convicted when talking about the murders. I believe it says he was to appear in court for murders last May but that he had accepted a deal to go to a mental institution instead of prison.

It says that he was '...convicted of multiple homicides in Santa Monica last May...' This a a classic amphiboly statement. It could mean...

1) Last May, was convicted for the homicides that he committed. That is, the conviction took place last May.
2) He committed the homicides last May and was recently convicted for them.

Judging by the way the story is unfolding, I'm betting it is the second option. Makes more sense that way.

[Witch_Doctor]

Man! Catching up on 24 pages of forum is time consuming haha.

I don't have too much to add but it think it is funny all the theories that people try to extrapolate with so little info. Reading some of the theories felt like reading "well we know 1+1=3 so the answer is green" haha

Maybe, or....

x = y.
Then x^2 = xy.
Subtract the same thing from both sides:
x^2 - y^2 = xy - y^2.
Dividing by (x-y), obtain
x + y = y.
Since x = y, we see that
2 y = y.
Thus 2 = 1, since we started with y nonzero.
Subtracting 1 from both sides,
1 = 0.

[YetAnotherBloodyCheek]

Maybe, or....

x = y.
Then x^2 = xy.
Subtract the same thing from both sides:
x^2 - y^2 = xy - y^2.
Dividing by (x-y), obtain
x + y = y.
Since x = y, we see that
2 y = y.
Thus 2 = 1, since we started with y nonzero.
Subtracting 1 from both sides,
1 = 0.

You are dividing by zero, pal.

x = y can be rewritten as x-y = 0. It is all a matter of term resolution.

[YetAnotherBloodyCheek]

It says that he was '...convicted of multiple homicides in Santa Monica last May...' This a a classic amphiboly statement. It could mean...

1) Last May, was convicted for the homicides that he committed. That is, the conviction took place last May.
2) He committed the homicides last May and was recently convicted for them.

Judging by the way the story is unfolding, I'm betting it is the second option. Makes more sense that way.

Good point. BTW, how long does a crime scene remain a crime scene in U.S.? I do not think that the police tape had been for long at the door of Bill's bureau. What did the police try to find? Why did they not take the drawings with them? The only logical solution is that Ink put the drawing there after he was turned.

[LiamKerrington]

I don't have too much to add but it think it is funny all the theories that people try to extrapolate with so little info. Reading some of the theories felt like reading "well we know 1+1=3 so the answer is green" haha

Weit. What? Green? Really??? I thought it to be purple with yellow sprinkles ... What did I miss???

There was an instance in the previous chapter when they found the note at Raydon Labs (the shopping list) which Michael described as having "strange symbols" written on it. I wonder if any of these match the tattoos that Ink has on his face and hands.

I bet they are of the same nature ...

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Michael is Bill Roberts. He is questioned by his psychiatrists. And he tells them this incredible and hilarious zombie-story. But this is just the post-traumatic stress symptom from his many missions in Iraq and Afghanistan, mixed with chemo-weapon-shit from his enemies ... So finally he freaked out, killed his family (why else would he have so much trouble telling anyone ebout his true family situation?), and now he is in custody. A tool to support him on his way out of his madness is his diary, which he calls "log" or "log file" out of habit ...

Best wishes!
Liam

[Witch_Doctor]

You are dividing by zero, pal.

x = y can be rewritten as x-y = 0. It is all a matter of term resolution.

You can divide by zero if you wear a tin foil hat.
The conical shape protects you from the singularity!

[Witch_Doctor]

Good point. BTW, how long does a crime scene remain a crime scene in U.S.? I do not think that the police tape had been for long at the door of Bill's bureau. What did the police try to find? Why did they not take the drawings with them? The only logical solution is that Ink put the drawing there after he was turned.

A location remains a crime scene only for as long as evidence can be obtained from it. So it wouldn't make sense for it to be a crime scene for a year after the murders. The best scenario that I can think of is this...

As far as if Ink has turned or not, Skittles says that he's not a person anymore. This makes me wonder a couple of things.
1) Could there have been other things smuggled into the jail inside of those ball point pens? Kelly says that the authorities were investigating how the stuff was smuggled in. What stuff, ink pens? There seemed to be a lot of concern over ink pens. (The article says that the tattoos were inflicted, as if he was inked against his will. But, why would he pay someone to do it if he didn't want it done?) I think that maybe chemicals from his lab were in the ink pens.

2) If the pens contained performance enhancement drugs (perhaps to make himself a bad ass in jail or to increase his strength in order to jail break himself) then this would explain why there was police tape on his office door on Z-day. Remember, he committed the crimes in Santa Monica. Why would his office be a crime seen? Of course, they could have suspected that he may have left evidence there; murder weapon, bloody glove, photos of his wife and Jack Tripper. Also, the article says that it was to be determined if the tattooing would delay the hearing. I doubt that jail house tattoos are so uncommon that it would hold up a court appearance. But, the simplest explanation would be that the police tape was put there just prior to Z-day because they were investigating how chemicals were removed from there and smuggled into the jail....

[Unit]

You are dividing by zero, pal.

x = y can be rewritten as x-y = 0. It is all a matter of term resolution.

Nice work, was thinking the same thing.

Here is one off topic but just for fun...

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