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    Something that I tried to post the other day, but it didn't seem to work.

    Something struck me about the description of Raydon Labs right at the start of the episode. Michael seems to go to great lengths to describe it as a plain white building, with the only patches of colour being covered up graffiti. It seemed like a strange amount of description to me, and the covered up graffiti interests me- could there have been some sort of attack/ protest at the site? something relating to Bill Roberts/ the police tape, or something to do with the sort of testing that was going on in there (i'm thinking sort of similar to animal rights/ GMO protestors or something??)

    In which case, maybe Kelly wasn't directly involved in the Bill Roberts case, but perhaps had some involvement in the trials of protesters?
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    Do not forget that Isaac had an older brother. Ishmael. He would go on to father another great people. He was a great archer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZombieWildfire View Post
    Something that I tried to post the other day, but it didn't seem to work.

    Something struck me about the description of Raydon Labs right at the start of the episode. Michael seems to go to great lengths to describe it as a plain white building, with the only patches of colour being covered up graffiti. It seemed like a strange amount of description to me, and the covered up graffiti interests me- could there have been some sort of attack/ protest at the site? something relating to Bill Roberts/ the police tape, or something to do with the sort of testing that was going on in there (i'm thinking sort of similar to animal rights/ GMO protestors or something??)

    In which case, maybe Kelly wasn't directly involved in the Bill Roberts case, but perhaps had some involvement in the trials of protesters?
    Honestly, I hadn't thought of the building description like that. I just assumed it was in a kinda bad part of LA with other industrial type buildings. Those types of areas often have less police presence and big flat white surfaces attract graffiti artists like moths to a flame...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZombieWildfire View Post
    Something that I tried to post the other day, but it didn't seem to work.

    Something struck me about the description of Raydon Labs right at the start of the episode. Michael seems to go to great lengths to describe it as a plain white building, with the only patches of colour being covered up graffiti. It seemed like a strange amount of description to me, and the covered up graffiti interests me- could there have been some sort of attack/ protest at the site? something relating to Bill Roberts/ the police tape, or something to do with the sort of testing that was going on in there (i'm thinking sort of similar to animal rights/ GMO protestors or something??)

    In which case, maybe Kelly wasn't directly involved in the Bill Roberts case, but perhaps had some involvement in the trials of protesters?
    Plain white building is the architectural version of a plain brown wrapper. Someone doesn't want to advertise what's inside. But the graffiti thing... Very good idea.
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    Yep that is a good point with the Graffiti.. Did not think of the possibility of protesters. I was thinking on the same lines as scbubba.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scbubba View Post
    Re: Kelly - if she were on the prosecution team that convicted evil Mr Ink, then it's a good bet that she would know a whole lot of details about his personal life. I would expect that to include his father's name and occupation. Especially if Ink had done any sort of experimentation, etc on his victims... Just my $0.02 there....



    Thanks for bringing this up and earlier reminding me of Isaac's role as patriarch.

    Not that I'm buying into the "Kc is going to bring everything back to the Bible" idea of where the show goes, but he does have a thing for meaningful names. And Isaac has pretty definite meaning in Jewish, Islam, and Christian religions.

    Isaac had 2 sons, Jacob and Esau. Jacob was given a new name by God - Israel. Israel was the patriarch of God's chosen people, the Israelites. Israel had 12 sons - each becoming the head of one of the 12 tribes of Israel.

    Isaac's other son, Esau, was the first born and should have been the more revered of the sons, as such. Two things happened. Esau basically gave away his birthright to his brother for a bowl of stew. Later, an aged and blind Isaac was tricked by Jacob into giving him the paternal blessing instead of Esau. Jacob did this by covering his arm with wool. This tricked Isaac into thinking it was Esau because Esau was known as a very hairy man.

    So Isaac, father of 2 sons. One is a real hairy guy and the other had 12 sons who where to start the lineage of God's chosen people.

    The rest is left as an exercise for the reader...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZombieWildfire View Post
    Something that I tried to post the other day, but it didn't seem to work.

    Something struck me about the description of Raydon Labs right at the start of the episode. Michael seems to go to great lengths to describe it as a plain white building, with the only patches of colour being covered up graffiti. It seemed like a strange amount of description to me, and the covered up graffiti interests me- could there have been some sort of attack/ protest at the site? something relating to Bill Roberts/ the police tape, or something to do with the sort of testing that was going on in there (i'm thinking sort of similar to animal rights/ GMO protestors or something??)

    In which case, maybe Kelly wasn't directly involved in the Bill Roberts case, but perhaps had some involvement in the trials of protesters?
    This would help the 'police taped off for a year doesnt make sense' argument, in that if Raydon was COMPLETELY shut down due to PhD Ink testing and protested outside of until it WAS shut down. Or something along those lines
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZombieWildfire View Post
    Something that I tried to post the other day, but it didn't seem to work.

    Something struck me about the description of Raydon Labs right at the start of the episode. Michael seems to go to great lengths to describe it as a plain white building, with the only patches of colour being covered up graffiti. It seemed like a strange amount of description to me, and the covered up graffiti interests me- could there have been some sort of attack/ protest at the site? something relating to Bill Roberts/ the police tape, or something to do with the sort of testing that was going on in there (i'm thinking sort of similar to animal rights/ GMO protestors or something??)

    In which case, maybe Kelly wasn't directly involved in the Bill Roberts case, but perhaps had some involvement in the trials of protesters?
    This would also help with the little ones being former animals theory.... Maybe the Graffiti was from animal rights protestors? Protesting the experiments going on inside the building?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eviebae View Post
    My point is that they usually take down the tape once the investigation is over. It's up to protect the scene from contamination. Since trials generally take awhile and he was sentenced that implied to me that the investigation was way, way over. They don't just use it when there's been a murder, so this tape could represent a later break in.

    I don't remember them crossing tape to get into the office so whatever happened in the office happened after the rampant destruction there. So, maybe, he came back to the office after his escape or someone else broke in to get him what he needed.

    It's a mystery--"Zombies He Wrote"
    Or possibly Radon Labs was still under investigation for something and Bill Roberts was just a piece of that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoff4D View Post
    This would help the 'police taped off for a year doesnt make sense' argument, in that if Raydon was COMPLETELY shut down due to PhD Ink testing and protested outside of until it WAS shut down. Or something along those lines
    If Raydon was completely shut that long before I doubt it would sit untouched for a whole year. Also anything that wasn't taken into evidence would have probably been reclaimed and moved/sold by the company; so there wouldn't have been pallets of 'butt cream' in the warehouse and paperwork all over the place. Also there would have likely been a sign or police tape at the front entrance rather than just on the one office door.

    I still agree there could have easily been a protest or something but my bet is that it would have happened at a much later date. I am not 100% convinced that Dr. William I. Roberts is the same as Ink but assuming it is, then perhaps a protest happened when details of Ink's trial became public in the media. But that would have been later after the arrest, investigation, long waiting period etc. So it may have only been days/weeks before Z-Day rather than a year.
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