Chapter 39-2 Chemical Reactions

[Witch_Doctor]

So, I looked around the internets and found that we're not the first to have a discussion on zombies and keratin. Here is a link from June, 2009. http://armorgames.com/community/thre...e-144/page/318
I think it is a gamer site. The first post about keratin is the last on the page, and continues onto the next page. It doesn't get very far into the science as RedGrog7odd does, (seriously? My spell checker didn't flag RedGrog7odd?) but the suggestion was brought up by a biology student at Yale.

I was trying to see if there was any source or theories that KC could have gotten ideas from.

Anyway, whatever this cryptogenic disease is, it only effects human biology.

[scbubba]

Hi.

I liked your wall of words, although I did not read them. But sure as hell they are great.

Big question:

Since Kelly is involved in the theoretical paperwork, and since Kelly is able to "read" other people (she knew something was fishy about Amy back right before Marcus was overthrown ...), what does she know about the 'numbers' related to Tanya and Saul? What are her conclusions? Will she be silent about it, or will she accidentally or purposefully start any rumors about them?

Best wishes!
Liam

Did Tanya include the tests she ran on her blood or Saul's blood in the notes/journals? I didn't hear it stated that she did. I'm also getting a stronger and stronger itch at the base of my skull the more I think that Tanya has not done any journaling that we know of.....

[scbubba]

KC had some ominous music there, also. I do not quite understand it. "Good Luck!" Seems right, but in my slang, "With That" is usually a sarcastic tag. Is she insulting military intelligence, again?

She thought journals to figure out what is going on with the outbreak were a waste of time. Michael with Lizzy's help overruled her in Season 1

In season 4, she says a lot of similar stuff.

The army comedy duo is not the brightest bunch and You need my thinking skills to Michael
Maybe that is why I am here (Tanya may have missed something)
Her argument with Victor behind the door

Her statement does sound a little creepy but on later listening I attribute it to her overdeveloped cynicism and sarcasm. Like she's saying "That's a big f'n effort and I'm glad I'm not involved" or "I don't think that's got a chance in hell of succeeding".

But then, I've been wrong about Kelly before...

[Footbutt]

Did Tanya include the tests she ran on her blood or Saul's blood in the notes/journals? I didn't hear it stated that she did. I'm also getting a stronger and stronger itch at the base of my skull the more I think that Tanya has not done any journaling that we know of.....

very good point. She did have a lot to hide/mask/shield about, but she was mainly in charge of cataloging and research, right?
i want to and don't want to read into the fact that i haven't hear a journal entry from her. it may just be that her entries are not needed or using an outsider's perspective (like Robbins) is a better fit for stroytelling?

[UndeadSweeper]

very good point. She did have a lot to hide/mask/shield about, but she was mainly in charge of cataloging and research, right?
i want to and don't want to read into the fact that i haven't hear a journal entry from her. it may just be that her entries are not needed or using an outsider's perspective (like Robbins) is a better fit for stroytelling?

She can't hide much from Micheal, Reilly, and the army boys. They all know about the bite and her being separate from the rest of the base for a time. If anything Micheal is going to defense Tanya and Saul with full force.

[Unit]

She can't hide much from Micheal, Reilly, and the army boys. They all know about the bite and her being separate from the rest of the base for a time. If anything Micheal is going to defense Tanya and Saul with full force.

I don't know, Michael has become a bit of a pushover to CJ lately. We all want the strong, leader Michael to come out to his friends defense, but if CJ throws out that Saul and Tanya would need to be exiled for their own protection; to keep the other colony members from killing them just to be sure and for their own safety, Michael will nod his head in agreement and get back in line.

I don't feel the same fight in Michael like he used to have.

[LiamKerrington]

Did Tanya include the tests she ran on her blood or Saul's blood in the notes/journals? I didn't hear it stated that she did. I'm also getting a stronger and stronger itch at the base of my skull the more I think that Tanya has not done any journaling that we know of.....

That's exactly my question. Does Tanya only work on the journal-material? Or is she - to a certain degree - involved in more paperwork. Although some dispute this, lawyers are in the end academics and thus skilled in working with scientific methods. So I ask, if Tanya uses this potential or keeps it totally under her control?

[Red Shirt]

Thanks goes everybody for the HUGE support of my research and my throwing of ideas at walls.
Now, with my "inbox" asploding when I log in to the desktop site, I've noticed that I have killed a jumper, (yay me!) I'm a "Hoarder" now and I'm Loved to Death. Cool.


Now, for a moment I'd like to shift gears and talk about a few other things:

The first is the ammo situation. It has been discussed here on the boards, on We're Not Dead, and more recently on the WND Fan Cast with the situation now being directly addressed in show. Mick & Red, you discussed the issues with making your own powder, a non-trivial issue. What about the Naval Station? It has the potential to solve many current problems. Probably plenty of small arms and its ammo, more hummers (all you gotta do is jump them off), probably some fuel... hell, if they are lucky they could even stumble on a truck mounted Phalanx. (Though I'll readily admit that one falls squarely in the Deus Ex Machina category.)

Barring all of that if it turns out to be a bust, there is still one thing they may find to be useful. Shells for large naval guns, maybe powder bags. Attempting to "open" a five inch shell for a naval gun is, frankly, a stupid idea. I'd rather try to cut open a 16 inch gun powder bag. May not be exactly the type of powder needed but with a stash of those... well, powder until the end of time. Now, the last of the Iowa class were stricken from the Naval Vessel Register on March 17th, 2006, but the USS Iowa was retained in the Reserve Fleet until October of 2011. It stands to reason that the navy was maintaining a reserve supply of munitions for the big guns.

Now, about the fuel. I gotta ask, is the colony just too far to go back to the tank farm?

That's enough for now, but as a parting shot I'll leave you with this. From the Science news segment of the Skeptic's Guide of the Universe, episode #432 October 26th 2013, (@8:20) they discus a recent development in antibiotics called PPMO's or peptide-conjugated phosphorodiamidate morpholino oligomer. Gesundheit. Current antibiotics fall into two categories: bactericidal which kill bacteria and bacteriostatic which prevent them from reproducing. Both function by disrupting cellular function. PPMO's may become a third class of antibiotics.

PPMO's are a synthetic analog of DNA or RNA that has the ability to silence the expression of specific genes. Compared to conventional antibiotics, which are often found in nature, PPMOs are completely synthesized in the laboratory with a specific genetic target in mind.

PPMO's have been found to be in many cases far more effective than existing antibiotics and found effective against resistant bacteria. PPMO's can also be used to treat genetic diseases.

SGU Episode
Article


Precision targeted gene suppression. What could possibly go wrong?
Sounds like something a particular pharmaceutical company might have been interested in.

[7oddisdead]

Every morning I think people "like" me with like alerts.

love the sgu, that piece on ppmo's was really interesting....shit I'd love to get a novella bros take on whats happening in this story. People think WE post over-the-top craziness...

[Duffusmonkey]

Saul and Tanya are not Turning they are the next evolution of mankind,

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