Chapter 19-2 Discussion

[nikvoodoo]

Why does everyone keep assuming that the Tower will leave or somehow fall in the absence of MPK?
Who needs a one arm ass, a can't cook-for-junk, and ummm Kelly around?!

Water might seem pressing but finding a water truck might not be to rough if they start looking in that direction, food is secured for months, and ammo if Burt is in command is I am sure already secured from his shop.

Just to b
I hope I'm correct but I bet the Tower will be better when they return then when they left.

I'm not even saying The Tower gets hit while they are still there. They could abandon the Tower and move to another home but someone (most likely the Mallers) would ransack the Tower looking for supplies left behind. Thus looking like the place was attacked.

[Renegade13]

I wonder if the smart ones were those infected soonest (the Zombie with the name tag) so they were scientists or techs working in a lab or facility. Or, they could have been trying to cure mental illness and so the more mentally ill you were, the better zombie you make.

I had the same thought. Every time I hear the smart ones mentioned, I keep picturing the Scientist from the latest Call of Duty.

[Adventureless_Hero]

Why does everyone keep assuming that the Tower will leave or somehow fall in the absence of MPK?
Who needs a one arm ass, a can't cook-for-junk, and ummm Kelly around?!

Water might seem pressing but finding a water truck might not be to rough if they start looking in that direction, food is secured for months, and ammo if Burt is in command is I am sure already secured from his shop.

Just to b
I hope I'm correct but I bet the Tower will be better when they return then when they left.

I'm not sure if they will get around to leaving the tower but I do think they need to, unless they come up with an answer to their water crisis. When Angel and Saul were coming up with the MRE idea, Angel blurted out that he felt the tower only had three days (the context of his hushed-rant seemed to imply that they were that low on water). I think that with all the supply runs they've been on they would have found a water truck by now, unless they get lucky on a later excursion.

[gregorious]

I'm hoping that Michael can get them out of there soon, if the tower handled the mallers they could hopefully handle this town.

[Ra1th]

I'm hoping that Michael can get them out of there soon, if the tower handled the mallers they could hopefully handle this town.

not necessarily, When the tower fought the Mallers, they were specifically on defense, there 4 active soldiers, michael, angel, burt, and bill, (everyone else was drunk) defending the tower against a group of about 30-50 mallers armed to the teeth, defending a position is 10 times easier than attacking it. that's why the tower wouldnt be able to fight toe to toe against the colony, not when the tower is on the offensive anyway UNLESS maybe they pulled something crazy off with the sweat bottles, maybe that'll even the odds, like hit the colony walls with pipe bombs, then throw some sweat bottles, and then book it

[nikvoodoo]

I'm hoping that Michael can get them out of there soon, if the tower handled the mallers they could hopefully handle this town.

I agree with ra1th also you have to remember how good the guardians are as snipers. They killed multiple people without allowing any of them to escape, and are good enough not to hit the recon member who brought the victim to the killzone. It is already hard enough to take over a position, but it makes it harder when you have a platoon of snipers picking you off one by one.

[manintrees]

you have to remember how good the guardians are as snipers. .

If the snipers were actual soldiers assigned to that position by Marcus, they might be quite interested to hear of his true military experience.

Drawing the Mallers into a battle with the Colony would be a good move.

Also, we use CBs at work. When distance is a factor, less powerful units can "hear" more powerful ones but not visa-versa. It makes complete sense that the Tower could be picking up transmissions but not have the ability to send them that far.

[Ra1th]

If the snipers were actual soldiers assigned to that position by Marcus, they might be quite interested to hear of his true military experience.

i dont think any of the guardian snipers are actual. military, probably just trained into "soldiers" like durai did with his maller army. cause otherwise any soldier with half a brain could have figured out marcus was lying, maybe shaun did.

Drawing the Mallers into a battle with the Colony would be a good move.

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[Adogg]

If the snipers were actual soldiers assigned to that position by Marcus, they might be quite interested to hear of his true military experience.

Drawing the Mallers into a battle with the Colony would be a good move.

Also, we use CBs at work. When distance is a factor, less powerful units can "hear" more powerful ones but not visa-versa. It makes complete sense that the Tower could be picking up transmissions but not have the ability to send them that far.

I doubt the Snipers are ex-military because they would have noticed Marcus' lack of military knowledge themselves but maybe they didn't get a chance to talk to Marcus yet.

I agree that getting the Mallers to fight the Colony would be a tactful move. It seems a bit out of character for the existing Tower members though. Also, it might actually make the Tower's situation worse as it will turn the Colony into an active enemy and/or possibly strengthen the Mallers if they take over the Colony. The best situation would be to overthrow Marcus and get a friendly leader in charge. Raith is going to love seeing the Mallers get involved...

Thank you for the insight in the CBs. It seems a bit odd that Michael did not know this but maybe he will have an 'Oh Yeah!' moment when he thinks of it.

I'm not even saying The Tower gets hit while they are still there. They could abandon the Tower and move to another home but someone (most likely the Mallers) would ransack the Tower looking for supplies left behind. Thus looking like the place was attacked.

Seems like what we would assume will happen given the time that has passed and that the last word we heard was that the Tower needed a short-term food supply before they moved to the training base facility

[Ra1th]

Adogg, the upside to giving the mallers the colony woild be that it puts the mallers 3-4 hours away from the tower base. The mallers would have to be pretty desperate to make a trip like that on a regular basis. So imo giving the mallers the colony could be beneficial for the tower. BUT the gaping hole im seeing with giving the mallers the colony would be that the people might be even worse off than when they had marcus in charge.