Chapter 33-2 Red Winter

[Privateer]

I had thought on Kimmet's reluctance to bring the Advanced Little One in for dissection. Sure he is being cautious and he says so by saying he doesn't want a repeat incident where one of the Forts is over run. BUT, what if there is something else? Something he knows about the blood in zombies. That could be why he hasn't let Michael provide Tanya with a zombie sample other than to let Tanya cross reference her own blood samples with those of uninfected. I bet that with the sample Michael provided, Tanya is going to find something startling. Just a thought.

It would be a really interesting wrinkle! But Kimmet has no reason to hide it. Civilization is gone for the most part, there's no government to embarrass, no ours to report on a scandal. He might keep it from Boulder, but not to his intelligence man. Speaking of which, /is/ Michael serving in an officer's billet?

[Cabbage Patch]

I had thought on Kimmet's reluctance to bring the Advanced Little One in for dissection. Sure he is being cautious and he says so by saying he doesn't want a repeat incident where one of the Forts is over run. BUT, what if there is something else? Something he knows about the blood in zombies. That could be why he hasn't let Michael provide Tanya with a zombie sample other than to let Tanya cross reference her own blood samples with those of uninfected. I bet that with the sample Michael provided, Tanya is going to find something startling. Just a thought.

It seems odd that Kimmet would keep critical knowledge to himself! Not that that would be out of place in this story. It felt like the first words out of anybody's mouth at the Tower when they learned something was "let's not tell the others about this".

[Eviebae]

This was a nicely balanced episode. A character building, plot developing, information gathering, adrenaline inducing episode.

Physical descriptions of the zombies! Funny how just calling this little one a "she" and talking about the skin a bit gives us a broader picture.

What I wonder is if Kc means to compare and contrast similar situations between groups. The Mallers, Ft. Irwin and CJ's little group both had/have a someone in charge who's at least some measure of competent but needs to be worked around (Durai, Kimmet and CJ) and a second in command (Scratch, Michael and Saul) who takes things into their own hands.

I think they need a third location though. Someplace to dissect the z's just in case==someplace easily and intensely flammable .

[LiamKerrington]

Adult Friend Fider => Yeehaww!

[Hoff4D]

Its a good question, as to if the soldier on the ground, having heard Kimmets' order, will be liable for punishment.The MP is charged with enforcing the UCMJ, but as far as we've seen, he hasn't done anything wrong. He may well be the one escorting Cross to the stockade though. As far as Kimmet going of his rocker, his decisions have been consistent, really. He's not being erratic, just conservative, and as the base CO, he's allowed to make that decision. It might be the wrong one, but Michael doesn't have the legal right to disobey a direct order, especially one that could less to serious consequences. I think Michael will lose more then a stripe.

I think Kimmet's decisions WERE consistent, until the need to bring his niece's body back, without questions. He's hardlined on this, no mattter WHO is at risk, evidenced by just making the body recovery a point of the search party. Her body back, no questions asked is dangerous with or without her turned.

[UndeadSweeper]

It seems odd that Kimmet would keep critical knowledge to himself! Not that that would be out of place in this story. It felt like the first words out of anybody's mouth at the Tower when they learned something was "let's not tell the others about this".

We still haven't heard anything about his visit of the other site.

[Hoff4D]

Little more food for thought too. Not sure if they're just doing some more trash-talkin about Tony Robbin's "fat ass", or really meant it, but before they landed at the crash site, they mentioned they're running lower than normal on fuel....It seems we're only getting a direct report from Tony robbins in this episode, not the Carl Thomas....I'm not sure how they run out of fuel and only Tony makes it back (Or documents it in some journal) to tell his story, but I feel its worth noting potential future fuel issues in the blackhawk

[Hoff4D]

Props to KC, for the character development of a freaking zombie! The little ones started as some 'smart than the average (tiny) zombie' in the maller attack.....lurked on Kalani/Angel in the shadows back at the base....waited out the Chinook in LA....then exhibited all the foreshadowed characteristics in the crash site by luring the men to the trees, jumped in and out of the trees to avoid taking fire. These Z's got some style


More of the Little Ones theories pop into my head as I sit here. We seemed to semi-confirm little ones beget little ones...and quickly. As the turner shot toward the end became harder and harder skinned as the color faded away. However, the two wandering around the crash site shredded by the M134, were not numbered yet, or at least deemed unnecessary to inspect for being different? It had to be a few hours at least for the blackhawk to get there, leading me to believe the two wandering would've turned full big-little ones, yet they were never called out as such by our men on the ground. So is this adding to potential theory that (for example) BITTEN by a little one (injecting venom or something) turns you into a little one, but a scratch from a little one may turn you into just a regular zedhead?....and as for Long, if they want to eat you, they just eat you. No turning?


Clarification question: the 3 turners at the end 'put down'? I know at least one of them were from the blackhawk with them, perhaps even two or 3, but I did not distinguish from the audio that 5 men went out from the blackhawk(tony robbins, carl thomas, "Jackie" i believe they called the one as he turned, and the other 2 put down as they turned). So i guess, was it 3 guys from the blackhawk that were turning, or just 2, and the first one got up and crawled away after being shot, thus being shot again seeming like a 3rd turner? OR was one of these a remaining pilot from the Chinook that had just then turned, since our beloved niece was already bagged and half-eaten.

Sorry, that was a lot, hope it made sense.

[Adventureless_Hero]

Specialist Anthony Robbins immediately made me think that John C. Reilly was doing the voice work, and now that's the image I have stuck in my head. John C. Reilly as Specialist Anthony Robbins.

[Penguine]

Not sure where to start on this one. Lets go to Michael/Kimmet. If Kimmet followed the UCMJ (Uniform Code of Military Justice) he would have limited things he could do to Michael. As a Staff Sergeant he would more or less lose one or two stripes but still be kept in the same billet (job) cause he is the only Intel person on Irwin. Chances are all that is going to happen though is that Kimmet will find out and call Michael to the carpet, probably with Puck right next to him, and rip in to him for disobeying an order, and they will both get some sort of extra-duty/restriction. While it may still be the Army, I am sure some things are handled a whole lot different. I really do not see anything more then that happening. Oh.. and no death sentence, that is WAY against the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ).

As for Micheal getting some sort of leadership role above what he has, that probably aint going to happen either. He is a Staff Sergeant and although he is an Intel troop I highly doubt leadership up to Kimmet and beyond is throwing out field commissions. To answer the question, a SSgt would never fill a Colonel position. There are main players in the story but you also have to think that their are higher ranking NCO's on Ft. Irwin. Just cause we dont' hear from them does not mean they don't exist. It would make no sense to think that the entire chain of command on Irwin is Kimmett, Micheal, Puck, then whoever is lower ranking then Puck.