Chapter 32-3 Captive Hearts

[Verse]

The Durai thing made sense to me. I see him as an upper management type in the family. I am willing to bet he hasn't had to get his hands dirty in a while. Back in the day he would have been untouchable in regards to Family stuff. He could have ranted, raved, and gone on..and on..and on... with little issue. Willing to bet he did jail time on for something like Tax Evasion or conspiracy to murder. Not for actually doing something himself. He was used to telling people what to do instead of doing himself. No one questioned him back in the day. Like the beginning said "That was then, This is now.."

In regards to The Colony, something has to be done to give it a major boost if it is to still be a threat. Right now we got Durai's loyalists vs Scratch's loyalists vs Gatekeeper's Loyalist. When the Dust settles a lot of people are going to be dead with more to come. If Scratch's people come through they will clean house of a lot of the others. I just can not see her going "Gatekeeper...you got balls. You and yours are forgiven if you work with me..." I see her killing them all.

Lets say she does get control in the end. She finds out about Fort Irwin. She is going to march her hundredish (Willing to bet less than that after this is over) through the city, across the desert, to attack a Military Base? I don't see the rest of the Colony being up for that. Something else has to happen to keep her a threat after this. She is a threat to Saul, Victor and CJ b/c it is 3 vs 130ish. But 75-100 people vs a Military base? Something else is coming. She will be bite by a Zombie or something. Turn into a Smart One and lead the Zombies to Irwin. Needs to be extreme.

[LiamKerrington]

The Durai thing made sense to me. I see him as an upper management type in the family. I am willing to bet he hasn't had to get his hands dirty in a while. Back in the day he would have been untouchable in regards to Family stuff. He could have ranted, raved, and gone on..and on..and on... with little issue. Willing to beat he did jail time on for something like Tax Evasion or conspiracy to murder. Not for actually doing something himself. He was used to telling people what to do instead of doing himself. No one questioned him back in the day. Like the beginning "That was then, This is now.."

In regards to The Colony, something has to be done to give it a major boost if it is to still be a threat. Right now we got Durai's loyalists vs Scratch's loyalists vs Gatekeeper Loyalist. When the Dust settles a lot of people are going to be dead with more to come. If Scratch's people come through they will clean house of a lot of the others. I just can not see her doing "Gatekeeper...you got balls. You and yours are forgiven if you work with me..." I see her killing them all.

Lets say she does get control in the end. She finds out about Fort Irwin. She is going to march her hundredish (Willing to bet less than that after this is over) through the city, across the desert, to attack a Military Base? I don't see the rest of the Colony being up for that. Something else has to happen to keep her a threat after this. She is a threat to Saul, Victor and CJ b/c it is 3 vs 130ish. But 75-100 people vs a Military base? Something else is coming. She will be bite by a Zombie or something. Turn into a Smart One and lead the Zombies to Irwin or something.

+1; what you are saying here makes a lot of sense. Three factions with one being more or less helpless as they have little to know access to guns (Gatekeeper loyalists). But there is a fourth group right now "establishing force" against The Colony - the zeds being led into the facility by Saul and CJ. This could also lead to some kind of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend"-situation between the factions ... Who actually knows - or bothers?

As you I don't see Scratch marching against Fort Irwin - at least in the sense of attacking. But after this revolution in The Colony I could imagine something along this line: When dust has settled the few remaining survivors could get into their remaining cars or whatnot and try to get out of LA - not considering the traffic jam on the roads leading out of town though. Also Scratch still does not know where The Tower-folks fled to; so basically the question #1 would be: Does Burt break? Or question #2: Are Victor and Saul going to get imprisoned, tortured and finally broken to reveal the Fort-Irwin-Bail-Out? At the moment it really is hard to tell where all of this going to end; and I hold almost any scenario within the paradigms of WA as valid as any other ...

Well ... Maybe we will have a sole story arc about Mr. Whiskers and Lady showing up and surviving in this town. As voice actor Mr. Simon of "Simon's Cat" would be a good deal, wouldn't he?

All the best!
Liam

P.S.: http://www.simonscat.com

[Bullethead]

Well this episode has been discussed to death and its only 8AM on a Tuesday. (has it been 24 hours?). So I shall instead turn my comments towards what will happen as a result of this episode.

Clearly Scratch is in scramble mode now, as are Bixby, CJ, Saul and Victor. As we heard CJ tell us the first gate was closed I began to think about where they go from here. There is not exactly time to call a secret meeting of the colonists and ask if they're fed up with the mallers and want to revolt anymore is there?
The only hope for our Tower folk is that Saul and CJ link up with Victor and or Bixby and Gatekeeper to make use of the "Cap-One" Armory Van they have. Even still, it would be 5 on 130. Perhaps there aren't as many Mallonists (forgot who used it first but I love it) armed and ready to fight as we think. It could be that just the Guardians and a few select people are armed. In which case we may have a fair fight to come.

So my thoughts on how the Tower folk make it through this is...race to the Colony's armory and go from there. Scratch will undoubtedly go for Burt and hold him hostage. I want to say that is where we will see the end of both Scratch and Burt; as Burt will go down in a cinematic fashion where he brings Scratch down with him. My only problem with that is Without Durai and without Scratch our story sort of comes to an end. There is no Evil Element, no good v bad, aside from Pinstripes but he seems to be soaking up some rays in Long Beach or something for this season.

If the worst should happen and all of our Hero's are captured by Mallonists I did have another thought. Micheal knows of the Colony and with his new position at Ft. Irwin who knows he may have eyes on the Colony. All this goes down, word goes back to the Ft. that there has been some wild partying and carrying on, fireworks, running with knives, smashing valuables (rip Shirley), and all a sudden Spec Ops drop by to check in on the noise complaint. We now have a Good v Bad scenario again.

[Litmaster]

Ok, since we're in prediction mode:

• Hope were in for a nice long battle sequence that lasts up until the end of this season (ala 'The War' in season 1). However, I hope Kc has his sound cues down solid... it can be tough to visualize what is happening when all hell is breaking loose
  
  
• Burt will be freed soon. Probably when they are about to escape and Lizzy will go "Wait! What about Burt?!" (etc)
  
  
• The Mallony will be overrun by zombies. Got to be, because it doesn't make sense, plot-wise, to have our heroes captured or to have them successfully stage a coup. In either case, the action will stop and the story will essentially be over. But with hordes of Zeds running wild, the whole place will collapse, leaving a small band of survivors to barely make it out of the flames...
  
  
• Burt will kill Scratch. Probably wishful thinking on my part, but I can't see any point in having Scratch live on beyond this battle. What is she going to do-- hug the underside of the van, Cape-Fear style, and pop out when the group gets back to LA?
  
  
• Burt will live until the end of the story. I don't care if its not realistic, dammit! Don't kill the old guy! The only way I'll stomach his death is if he goes out like a supreme badass, like dragging Scratch down with him into an active volcano, or something.
  
  
• Season 4 will be about the hunt for Ink and the source of the contamination. Back to the origins, here, with the escaped Mallony survivors SAT-phoning Michael and getting a team of commandoes to assult the hospital...

[UndeadSweeper]

Ok, since we're in prediction mode:

• Hope were in for a nice long battle sequence that lasts up until the end of this season (ala 'The War' in season 1). However, I hope Kc has his sound cues down solid... it can be tough to visualize what is happening when all hell is breaking loose
  
  
• Burt will be freed soon. Probably when they are about to escape and Lizzy will go "Wait! What about Burt?!" (etc)
  
  
• The Mallony will be overrun by zombies. Got to be, because it doesn't make sense, plot-wise, to have our heroes captured or to have them successfully stage a coup. In either case, the action will stop and the story will essentially be over. But with hordes of Zeds running wild, the whole place will collapse, leaving a small band of survivors to barely make it out of the flames...
  
  
• Burt will kill Scratch. Probably wishful thinking on my part, but I can't see any point in having Scratch live on beyond this battle. What is she going to do-- hug the underside of the van, Cape-Fear style, and pop out when the group gets back to LA?
  
  
• Burt will live until the end of the story. I don't care if its not realistic, dammit! Don't kill the old guy! The only way I'll stomach his death is if he goes out like a supreme badass, like dragging Scratch down with him into an active volcano, or something.
  
  
• Season 4 will be about the hunt for Ink and the source of the contamination. Back to the origins, here, with the escaped Mallony survivors SAT-phoning Michael and getting a team of commandoes to assult the hospital...

How about Lizzie offing Scratch? She has a reason now. Because Scratch, I think it was her voice, was the one who shot Bricks.

[Penguine]

So how would Burt get rescued? Lizzy does not know where Burt is held, only that he is locked up. Bricks knew, but he never told Lizzy, only told her that there were guards and an alarm. Gatekeeper or Bixby might know simply cause they probably have been to that area, but that would mean that Saul/CJ need to hookup with Bixby/Gatekeeper, but Saul/CJ do not know Burt is there, which takes us back to Lizzy. Does she tell Victor, or in her state of shock/excitement/fear/whatever just forget?

Does Gatekeeper/Bixby/Mallonies (plural of Mallony?) make it out of the Colony? They could cram a bunch in the SWAT van and head to the hills. If it were me I think I would grab Lizzy, Burt if possible, and the Sat Phone and Victor, tell Gatekeeper and Bixby they can come if they want to, and head toward the gate in the SWAT van picking up anyone that Gatekeeper or Victor says were good, then leave the rest. I'd haul ass out of dodge and tell CJ we need head to Dunbar, lock that place down, and get the Sat phone fixed.

I don't think that Saul will call in a strike on anyone, I think he will call for evac to get him and his people out of town. On the other hand, I think Saul will find it hard to get back in to Army life when/if he and Lizzy get back to one another. He has fought/searched for months to find her, and I highly doubt if Kimmet tells him his pregnant woman is now being airlifted to Colorado but you have to stay that that is going to go over well with him. Probably go over as well as a fart during Catholic Mass.

Question... All this driving around any idea why they would not have ever put together a small team and headed to like Camp Pendleton, Miramar Air Station, LA Air Force Base, for supplies, vehicle, etc? I for one would have been like "Hey, you do know they have Strikers at Pendelton right?" Just a thought, but the Mallers would have shit their pants had a Striker come through the front gate, rotate the turret toward Scratch/Durai, and Saul pop his head out the hatch and been like "Where's my woman bitch!"

[Witch_Doctor]

Anyone else thinking that Saul and CJ have just delivered Scratch's escape vehicle? Bet she'll be less hesitant to ram the gates on her way out!

Dangit! So how many of our heroes can fit into that Shelby Cobra? Lucky for them they, sometimes, come across as clowns.

[reaper239]

DAMMIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just when i thought scratch would ge hers

poor bricks just when we thought we'd found a new ally

alright, so who won the saul baby pool?

[Bullethead]

Does she tell Victor, or in her state of shock/excitement/fear/whatever just forget?

Good point. She is going through alot right now. Bricks Death, Pregnancy, Saul, Mr. Whiskers. She may just forget to remember Burt. I doubt it but it is a good point to bring up her state of clusterfuckness.

If it were me I think I would grab Lizzy, Burt if possible, and the Sat Phone and Victor, tell Gatekeeper and Bixby they can come if they want to, and head toward the gate in the SWAT van picking up anyone that Gatekeeper or Victor says were good, then leave the rest. I'd haul ass out of dodge and tell CJ we need head to Dunbar, lock that place down, and get the Sat phone fixed.

I think I'd do the same but im curious as to how much of a resistance they are encountering. Remember they're getting lit up from above by guardians, when they open up the secondary gates they might get shot at from there too. No one has had time to tell the Mallonists that a better option is about to become available. Amongst this chaos 2 new people with fully loaded truck may be seen as a threat more than a rescue.

Question... All this driving around any idea why they would not have ever put together a small team and headed to like Camp Pendleton, Miramar Air Station, LA Air Force Base, for supplies, vehicle, etc? I for one would have been like "Hey, you do know they have Strikers at Pendelton right?" Just a thought, but the Mallers would have shit their pants had a Striker come through the front gate, rotate the turret toward Scratch/Durai, and Saul pop his head out the hatch and been like "Where's my woman bitch!"

If they were to run into those areas now they'd have to clear it first before even thinking of setting up shop and mounting an assault. Not to mention gas and what if things are broke? Datu's long gone now. No one else in California can fix things like he could.

I really cannot wait to see how they get out of this one, its udder chaos in there right now. People are just shooting at anything that moves it seems and we have 7 people inside that we need to make sure come out ok. Safe to say 1 or 2 more people will be scratched off the survivor list next time we return.

[UndeadSweeper]

Saul: NOTE TO SELF, No former tower tenants should visit the colony, or all hell will break loose.

Anyway, Can anyone verified that Scarface was Bricks shooter?

Dangit! So how many of our heroes can fit into that Shelby Cobra? Lucky for them they, sometimes, come across as clowns.

Witch Doctor, stop using the word clown. Clown should never be use in a zombie drama. (Shutter......)