Wikipedia game. Someone picks two articles and you have to get between them in 5-6 clicks using related articles. Eg, the ring has a specific type of link, a link which is apparently seen in DNA. You know what else can be made with DNA? Pretty much any weird combination you choose. They are not as flexible as amino acids for forming complex structures but still. And then you link the questionable DNA strand (no pun intended) back to the twelf century italians. No offense but in my humble opinion your looking WAY to far into it. What your saying may well be true but the way your putting it together using a lot of assumptions and coincidence. My reckoning? Kc looked up some old, influential italian families and stole a crest. I honestly don't think Kc is going to go back and link the italian family to the source of "them" because at that point why not just make them templars as well? You may have a point with the phi bit although in nature it is more to do with development in which for some reason the fibonacci sequence is often found. My criticism of the post was hidden in a reference you didn't get so in fact sir it is you whom failed to understand my post. I mean none of this in anyway to be offensive, so don't sound so hurt.