Chapter 30- Short Term Memory Part 3

[wh33t]

Please drop the tracking device idea. In a pre-Z world how many secret tracking devices are kicking around? Not many. There are some GPS solutions around - but no one in WA seems to be using GPS so I assume the satilites link aren't working as GPS's are everywhere pre-Z. It not impossible but it is a real stretch

Yea, I'm starting to doubt the tracking idea too as I originally got behind the idea because it just seemed incredibly unlikely that an old dude and a fool like Pete could escape the Mallers. But after much deliberation I'm mostly in agreement that the Mallers after twice attacking the Tower and losing significant numbers of their force would not be as strong as I originally had thought. Finding the fortress that is the Colony might also be allowing them to relax a bit, which might have aided Glenn and Petes escape. So perhaps it's not so unlikely that Pete and Glenn were able to escape on their own merits.

[Skynet]

Yea, I'm starting to doubt the tracking idea too as I originally got behind the idea because it just seemed incredibly unlikely that an old dude and a fool like Pete could escape the Mallers. But after much deliberation I'm mostly in agreement that the Mallers after twice attacking the Tower and losing significant numbers of their force would not be as strong as I originally had thought. Finding the fortress that is the Colony might also be allowing them to relax a bit, which might have aided Glenn and Petes escape. So perhaps it's not so unlikely that Pete and Glenn were able to escape on their own merits.

I'm not saying I agree with the whole tracking idea, but who is to say they're not just using the same method the tower used to track the Zs back to the arena?

[wh33t]

I'm not saying I agree with the whole tracking idea, but who is to say they're not just using the same method the tower used to track the Zs back to the arena?

I think it's safe to say with out a doubt there is no way they are using the 'exact' same method of tracking as the last trackers made shit tons of noise, they were also large and very noticeable even to a Z. They could be modified though, but then who would have the skills to modify them? Maybe if the Mallers have "tommys" they could pull it off. But yeah... made some other tracking device we haven't heard of yet. I dunno.

[Cabbage Patch]

The tech certainly exists to track Glenn and Pete.

One of the more interesting news stories I watched this weekend involved the tracking devices that were used to follow the guns that were passed on to Mexican drug cartel reps under Operation Wide Receiver during the Bush Administration (the operation ran from 2006 to 2007). These were small enough to hide inside an AR-15 or AK variant so they weren't obvious when the guns were field stripped and didn't interfere with firing. They used RFID technology and could be tracked from 40 miles away by aircraft, a couple of miles from cars.

Something like that would be small enough to hide in the lining of a backpack, in the stock of Glenn's rifle, even in the hollowed out heel of someone's boot, and the carrier would be none-the-wiser. And it wouldn't give off any signal till it was pinged by a search signal on the proper frequency.

I'm not saying this is what the Mallers did, just that they could have done so using equipment that was available at the time.

[wh33t]

The tech certainly exists to track Glenn and Pete.

One of the more interesting news stories I watched this weekend involved the tracking devices that were used to follow the guns that were passed on to Mexican drug cartel reps under Operation Wide Receiver during the Bush Administration (the operation ran from 2006 to 2007). These were small enough to hide inside an AR-15 or AK variant so they weren't obvious when the guns were field stripped and didn't interfere with firing. They used RFID technology and could be tracked from 40 miles away by aircraft, a couple of miles from cars.

Something like that would be small enough to hide in the lining of a backpack, in the stock of Glenn's rifle, even in the hollowed out heel of someone's boot, and the carrier would be none-the-wiser. And it wouldn't give off any signal till it was pinged by a search signal on the proper frequency.

I'm not saying this is what the Mallers did, just that they could have done so using equipment that was available at the time.

And you're saying that it's possible that this technology could still be working almost a year into Zday?

[Cabbage Patch]

And you're saying that it's possible that this technology could still be working almost a year into Zday?

I don't see why not. RFIDs aren't much more than a chip with an antenna attached. Most are passive, and only reflect information when they're hit by the proper interrogator signal (like the security tags that stores use for loss-control, or a pet finder chip), so they don't need batteries and they last forever, but they have very short range. The ones in the bait guns had batteries, and longer range, but their service life would have more to do with when they were activated, not how old they are. The interrogator is a fairly high powered radio, but it draws it's juice from batteries or the vehicle it's in. Neither component relies on satellites or the power grid to work. If the Mallers found a set of them inside a sealed building there's no reason to assume they wouldn't work just fine.

I still don't think this is what is happening, but I think it's definitely possible.

[wh33t]

I don't see why not. RFIDs aren't much more than a chip with an antenna attached. Most are passive, and only reflect information when they're hit by the proper interrogator signal (like the security tags that stores use for loss-control, or a pet finder chip), so they don't need batteries and they last forever, but they have very short range. The ones in the bait guns had batteries, and longer range, but their service life would have more to do with when they were activated, not how old they are. The interrogator is a fairly high powered radio, but it draws it's juice from batteries or the vehicle it's in. Neither component relies on satellites or the power grid to work. If the Mallers found a set of them inside a sealed building there's no reason to assume they wouldn't work just fine.

I still don't think this is what is happening, but I think it's definitely possible.

That RFID implant shit is creepy.

[UndeadSweeper]

Has anyone figure out why this one is called "Short Term Memory"??

[UndeadSweeper]

I don't see why not. RFIDs aren't much more than a chip with an antenna attached. Most are passive, and only reflect information when they're hit by the proper interrogator signal (like the security tags that stores use for loss-control, or a pet finder chip), so they don't need batteries and they last forever, but they have very short range. The ones in the bait guns had batteries, and longer range, but their service life would have more to do with when they were activated, not how old they are. The interrogator is a fairly high powered radio, but it draws it's juice from batteries or the vehicle it's in. Neither component relies on satellites or the power grid to work. If the Mallers found a set of them inside a sealed building there's no reason to assume they wouldn't work just fine.

I still don't think this is what is happening, but I think it's definitely possible.

Yes but to the Maller, they "know" the tower was destroyed and the first tower was "overrun". Why would spend so must time track people if they believe that nothing left?

[wh33t]

Has anyone figure out why this one is called "Short Term Memory"??

I thought it was a give-away personally. I figured it was referencing the fact that Saul can't remember what Lizzy even looks like. It's in the opening dialogue of the chapter.