Chapter 30-Short Term Memory part 2

[Ray]

To be honest, it's one of the only explanations I have for (presumably) Bricks to be around Lizzy all the time. Scratch immediately protected her once she found out she was knockered up. Bricks has been set as her guardian. So either Bricks and Lizzy have become an item, or Auntie Scratch is protecting her...investment? I dunno what you'd call Lizzy.

But again, I restate my support for Lizzy turning Bricks to her cause especially if they are buddy buddy hanging around the Colony.

I'm thinking that Scratch is protecting her because she wants a bargaining chip, Bricks because he seems to be the only one with a conscience and doesn't want to see a pregnant woman hurt. He even started to call her Elizabeth before she told him to call her Lizzy. Scratch probably doesn't care about Lizzy because she's a good person, only because she wants something to have in her quiver should she need to bargain with anyone from the tower should they see each other again. The only person she's ever shown to respect or care about was Durai and even then she's gone against his orders once before.

[Ray]

Interesting point! Why did they assume Michael was in charge? I thought Michael, Pegs and Kelly kept all the details of the Tower secret while they were at the Colony. And why did Glenn and Pete assume the helicopter was associated with our Tower? The helicopters hadn't come up yet at that point. Were the Mallers telling tales? Interrogating people from the Colony about their experience with the Tower folk? There's something going on here we don't understand yet.

Michael said at every opportunity that he was in the Army and "Marcus knows what I can do" to everyone that would listen. Even Gatekeeper knew because he accused Michael of "military-machismo" when in the bar with Victor. I think the word got around at the Colony that Michael was in the Army and that they are making big assumptions, especially because they came to get Saul help and Tanya knew they were all in the Army even if she had to throw out a risky guess to confirm it. Plus, being taken over by the Mallers one of them has got to have loose lips and someone heard they had helicopters. Not everyone knows every type of helicopter they would've had and could easily assume it was theirs especially if the Mallers were on the backfoot and had to shoot one down to keep the upper hand. (I know Khalani crashed it and they didn't shoot it down but they might have said they did) I think they might be spies but KC has given enough evidence to support both trains of thought to keep us spinning our wheels.

[Ray]

i really like glenn, he sounds like a lot of the old guys who would sit around in dennys drinking coffee when i was younger, but the question i have is; when saul was trying to sell glenn and pete on victor as a good guy..he mentioned his mom...why would he not say her name? just because the colony is a big place..does not mean they would not have heard of the hospital staff...the opposite i would think. knowing tayna is sauls mom could have diffused the situation much quicker i would think.

Tanya had been at the colony for months according to her and treated all kinds of injuries. I'm sure she had met all if not the vast majority of the people at the Colony in her time there. She was the only real medical staff they had and I'm sure everyone had come to her for one reason or another. Plus Glenn was the radio guy so he would've known who had gotten hurt in the recon teams and alerted someone that they needed medical help. Saul could've mentioned his Mom was Tanya quicker but the feelings of betrayal by Victor would've probably drowned that out at first.

[Adventureless_Hero]

As cold hearted as Scratch is, I don't think she'd kill a pregnant woman's unborn child. She may kill Lizzy at some point and try to save the baby, but I think simply for the fact that Lizzy is pregnant, she is alive.

I don't have a definite opinion as to what is going on with Lizzy and Bricks. It could be a number of things; like she recognized his personality type and knew how to manipulate him into being her protected, but over time he won her over with his general good nature and now they are genuine friends, or they could be shagging. I doubt the latter, though.

I had imagined Lizzy and Bricks would become pals for almost as long as Bricks was introduced. So I'm going to stick with my prediction that this friendship or whatever it is will cause some HUGE friction between Saul and Lizzy. I can easily picture a scenario where Saul accidentally puts a bullet in Bricks noodle. Or Bricks goes on some Hulk out when he sees that his chances with Lizzy are moot.

[nikvoodoo]

She was the only real medical staff they had and I'm sure everyone had come to her for one reason or another.

That's not true. We did not hear from the additional staff, but we heard of their existence from Tanya and Dr. Did Not Know Better Than to Listen To Scratch was definitely a Colony doctor. A Maller doctor would definitely know to stay out of Scratch's way.

[Stuv]

So I was wondering...
What's the possibility that each type of zombie turns a human into it's own type now?
It seems Roman got turned into a new improved little one. The last potential turner was.. Tommy(?) and his re-life was too short to tell.
When Pegs and Riley were trapped on the flowershop, it was just a free for all of the basic grunt zombies and the crowd.
Thoughts?

I have been thinking that perhaps the different zombies ar actually new versions of an original prototype for lack of a better term. Whoever is behind the virus could be "upgrading" the zombies trying to achieve some specific form. Each type (biters,behomeths, little ones etc. ) are steps in the process. What do you think?

[fridginators]

I have been thinking that perhaps the different zombies ar actually new versions of an original prototype for lack of a better term. Whoever is behind the virus could be "upgrading" the zombies trying to achieve some specific form. Each type (biters,behomeths, little ones etc. ) are steps in the process. What do you think?

[HorrorHiro]

Pregnancy confirmed!!!

South's fall to the Mallers confirmed!!

Who else thinks the "slaves" are the old guards from the prison?

How far along would Lizzy be?

I suppose it's a possibility, but remember both the Colony and the Mallers already had slaves, or "workers" as the capitalists at the colony liked to call them. I personally think that if the Mallers saw any cops or prison guards that they had...less than fond memories of they would have shot them on sight.

[Adventureless_Hero]

I have been thinking that perhaps the different zombies ar actually new versions of an original prototype for lack of a better term. Whoever is behind the virus could be "upgrading" the zombies trying to achieve some specific form. Each type (biters,behomeths, little ones etc. ) are steps in the process. What do you think?

I do believe they are Lizzy's Little Ones all grown up. I don't think it was intended for them to remain little all through their life cycle. It seems to me that Pin Stripes is tinkering with the virus that created these zombies. I think he's mutating it to create different forms of zombies. Hell, from the sound of it, these little ones kind of resemble him, except he's outfitted them with talons. It could be they are clones of him, or offspring?

Edit/Addition
I'm also beginning to wonder about something Kalani said. He told that the biters in Hawaii were a lot nastier and meaner. Could that be because they didn't have a leader to hold them back? We've heard Pin Stripes give commands to withdraw and to halt attacks. Perhaps they seemed meaner in Hawaii because they weren't being commanded but rather were just a bunch of free willed roamers, attacking to try to satisfy an insatiable hunger for living flesh?

[Ray]

That's not true. We did not hear from the additional staff, but we heard of their existence from Tanya and Dr. Did Not Know Better Than to Listen To Scratch was definitely a Colony doctor. A Maller doctor would definitely know to stay out of Scratch's way.

I must have missed that they had a honest to god doctor that was treating people regularly. In Chapter 19 part 2 of 3 at about 7:40 Pegs asks if it is just Tanya and Hope, and Tanya says it is but there are a few nurses when things get really bad but most have gone home already. If there was a trained doctor and not just her as a vet I'm sure that she would have said something about him. In Chapter 19 part 1 at 13:15 Marcus says she's not the only medical authority around any more, that probably being him, but I would've thought they'd have him fix Michael and not Tanya, especially since Marcus didn't want Hope around and Tanya wasn't a "real" doctor. I don't think he had been there very long since the agreement to allow Hope work at the hospital wasn't done with Marcus' approval and he threatened to take that away from her by redoing their contract. It doesn't sound like he came into the Colony until that point and wasn't treating everyone regularly by that time. Seems to me he would have sent Tanya packing for everything but the most minor things to deal with at the time that the group has gotten there because Tanya wasn't a real doctor and with him around they would've have one much better trained and knowledgeable than here. That's why I worded it that way even though there was a real doctor at the time we heard that exchange between Tanya and Marcus. That still doesn't mean that everyone didn't know her since around the time of Michael, Pegs and Kelly showing up they only had her to treat people. Everyone had to have known her, including Glenn and Pete. Glenn especially since he ran all communications and knew where to send people that were hurt on missions.