Who/What was the Cause of the War between the Tower and Mallers

[GeneTwo]

So everyone has an image in their minds of who the mallers are. What do you see Osiris.

[Osiris]

So everyone has an image in their minds of who the mallers are. What do you see Osiris.

As a whole? I see them as a group of miscreants and thugs--average max security prison folk--that are too afraid of the man in charge to say no. If Durai was able to worry Scratch... well... if she's as evil and brutal as everyone makes her out to be, Durai must be Satan himself. No, not me. The other Satan. As for Durai, I really don't have a lot to go on, so I'm going to reserve comment for later.

[HorrorHiro]

I don't necessarily agree with Osiris, but I do prefer the Mallers over every other group in WA.

[HaveCrowBarWillTravel]

[QUOTE=Osiris;37636][COLOR=#008080]Nobody's asking him to rape babies or kill Jews. Moral compass is subjective (apparently). Apply the same set of moral standards to animals. That's essentially what we're dealing with right here with regard to survival. It is clear that Kalani was doing what he was doing to ensure the survival of his child. It is entirely possible Scratch and Latch were doing the same.

LOL. "apply the same set of moral standards to animals.."
well, I'm moving on after that bit of logic.

Crowbar out!

[yarri]

I don't necessarily agree with Osiris, but I do prefer the Mallers over every other group in WA.

I don't always either but he's made some valid points

[Osiris]

[QUOTE=HaveCrowBarWillTravel;37726]

[COLOR=#008080]Nobody's asking him to rape babies or kill Jews. Moral compass is subjective (apparently). Apply the same set of moral standards to animals. That's essentially what we're dealing with right here with regard to survival. It is clear that Kalani was doing what he was doing to ensure the survival of his child. It is entirely possible Scratch and Latch were doing the same.

LOL. "apply the same set of moral standards to animals.."
well, I'm moving on after that bit of logic.

Crowbar out!

The point is, you can't. It's a matter of survival, pure and simple. Sometimes morals have to be chucked out the window for a while to keep yourself breathing.

[Osiris]

I don't necessarily agree with Osiris, but I do prefer the Mallers over every other group in WA.

I don't know if I would go that far. lulz.

I don't always either but he's made some valid points

I think a lot of valid points have been raised in this thread--from a lot of people. All in all, enjoyable.

[Ray]

I'm tired of you Osiris. We both stick to our guns, you however are a condescending prick about it. I haven't ignored anything and you've said nothing other than "mind the chain of events" so it's pointless to argue with you. You're sticking to absolutes, black and white, "they did this" without looking at context. Call me a troll all you want, I'm sorry I lost your dick measuring contest in concern to who's been here longer and has more posts. I've listened to the entire series about 5 times and I get the overall picture, you however look at each exchange as separate events that don't have an effect on what happens next in conversation or major plot points. You have no concept of context, emotions conveyed in speech and setting, and you can't come anywhere near close to seeing the overall picture. You're pointless to talk to because of your condescending attitude and your false sense of better understanding of the situations as they are presented. I'll ask you what you asked me. Do you read what you write? Because you obviously don't or you don't understand the basics of English. You also strive so hard to look at things logically (though you aren't very good at it) that you forget human emotion, context of settings and events and basic common sense. You can defend who you want, and I'll defend who I want, but I'm tired of your attitude. Drop the mic all you want, you're still wrong in many ways. Cute internet humor and a condescending attitude must get you really far in life.

[reaper239]

[QUOTE=Osiris;37793]

The point is, you can't. It's a matter of survival, pure and simple. Sometimes morals have to be chucked out the window for a while to keep yourself breathing.

not true, i'd rather eat a bullet than sacrifice my own moral standings.

[reaper239]

I'm tired of you Osiris. We both stick to our guns, you however are a condescending prick about it. I haven't ignored anything and you've said nothing other than "mind the chain of events" so it's pointless to argue with you. You're sticking to absolutes, black and white, "they did this" without looking at context. Call me a troll all you want, I'm sorry I lost your dick measuring contest in concern to who's been here longer and has more posts. I've listened to the entire series about 5 times and I get the overall picture, you however look at each exchange as separate events that don't have an effect on what happens next in conversation or major plot points. You have no concept of context, emotions conveyed in speech and setting, and you can't come anywhere near close to seeing the overall picture. You're pointless to talk to because of your condescending attitude and your false sense of better understanding of the situations as they are presented. I'll ask you what you asked me. Do you read what you write? Because you obviously don't or you don't understand the basics of English. You also strive so hard to look at things logically (though you aren't very good at it) that you forget human emotion, context of settings and events and basic common sense. You can defend who you want, and I'll defend who I want, but I'm tired of your attitude. Drop the mic all you want, you're still wrong in many ways. Cute internet humor and a condescending attitude must get you really far in life.

now tell him how you really feel!