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    Quote Originally Posted by nikvoodoo View Post
    Lest you think I'm hiding I had a busy day.

    Told you I'd eat my crow. And Those you picked Kalani you were right. gloat as much as you want.

    Great episode and I'm very happy that the journal cut off. I like that we're still left with a mystery even after all the questions that were answered. As my latest position I stated that Riley left the roof at some point during Chapter 24. Kalani said she just left, but he's just proven how he's able to manipulate a timeline re: Datu. I will say I was happy that my explanation as to how Kalani could be in two places at once ended up coming to pass. Manipulate the situation to make someone else vouch for you.

    Poor Datu never saw it coming. Wonder how angry he will be about being used like that.
    I'D make you eat your crow if i was not fuming over the fact that Kalani didnt even ask for proof that Hannah was alive before ratting oit the tower.

    Ok i'll admit ima little cranky because more secrets are being unfolded and that means were so much closer to the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awkwardalex View Post
    I'D make you eat your crow if i was not fuming over the fact that Kalani didnt even ask for proof that Hannah was alive before ratting oit the tower.

    Ok i'll admit ima little cranky because more secrets are being unfolded and that means were so much closer to the end.
    totally see your point at the end there, but are we really? throughout this whole saga that has been playing out, the rat situation has been a sidebar to the entire story. the underpinnings to a larger scenario of human vs human conflict when its totally unnessacary in a "zombie" apacolypse. while ill agree that im sad to see the rat story come seemingly to an end..it really does open up numerous different options as far as story direction..this is done, closed, out of the way..now..on to more pressing matters. the last 3-4 parts have been brilliant execution of a story that could have taken place in any enviroment..not just a zombie story. weaving it into a story such as this is real deal stuff (man, i sound like a gushing fanboy..wtf?..)

    anyways, so the human betrayal story arc is (for the most part) concluded..just think of the bits we have yet to figure out? perfect example..this chapters cover art

    so we have what looks like either a gas mask or a flight helmet..either way, as many have said..it leans more toward possible ground zero exploration, now throw on top of that the chapter title and we have set a very ominous scenario for out la trio havent we?...so long as we are thinking along those lines, who among our trio has ultimately served their purpose? one that could have one last parting thing to say..filling the meaning of the chapter title? perhaps cj is not long for this story..perhaps vic?( ) oh heaven forbid saul! hes gotta find his lizzie! plenty more stupid things for him to rush into still.. reallly just this first chapter has left us with few questions..and a whole bunch of answers..but thats kinda cool every now and then.
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    Has anyone else noticed that Kalani seems a little full of himself when it comes to the ladies? Remember, much of what we've been hearing of his backstory is being told by him, first-person, in his journal. So first he describes himself having breaking the ice with Samantha in a situation that was fraught with potential. Then he describes Kelly basically coming on to him. There's no telling how much of that, if any, is true. The story doesn't tell us if Kalani went on to become some sort of "Tower Lothario" after the War, but I bet he saw himself that way!

    Overall this story episode did a fine job of closing out Kalani's backstory. The only things it left me wanting closure on were the encounter with Skittles/Duncan at the Army base and what he did with the silenced pistol. I'd love to know if Kalani honestly didn't recognize Duncan, or if he was lying to protect his cover. And a silenced pistol sure would have come in handy during that encouter with Pinstripes at the Hospital!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eviebae View Post
    Interesting also that the Durai had someone fire from the top of the tower. Guess it was to present a motive other than being complete Bstrds for attacking the tower. It might help our team to think that surrendering to the Maller's was an viable option instead of a disastrous mistake.

    I Wonder why Scratch and Latch are so scared of Durai?
    I think it was Scratch idea, not Durai's. The guys in the tower know what happened to the tanker for real, while back at the Mallers' the culprit was believed to be Charlie. Not that I think Durai would give a damn about poor Charlie, but I think Scratch realizes that if they'd capture the Tower occupants alive sooner or later this would come up and put Scratch and Latch in trouble. I think she had Kalani shoot because she wanted an excuse to take the tower by violence and kill the potential witnesses to the real tanker story. Durai seems also genuinely surprised when he delivers the line "YOU are shooting at us!" in response to Michael and he wanted the building as intact as possible, it was pretty clear to me: when Scratch is about to set fire to the stairwell one of the Mallers protests they shouldn't do it, and I'm guessing not out of compassion for the occupants of the Tower.

    Great to hear old voices again, but as far as I can tell there are no new Angel recordings. I'm a bit curious as to where Shane Salk is, as he's also not producing this season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clem131 View Post
    I think it was Scratch idea, not Durai's. The guys in the tower know what happened to the tanker for real, while back at the Mallers' the culprit was believed to be Carl. Not that I think Durai would give a damn about poor Carl, but I think Scratch realizes that if they'd capture the Tower occupants alive sooner or later this would come up and put Scratch and Latch in trouble. I think she had Kalani shoot because she wanted an excuse to take the tower by violence and kill the potential witnesses to the real tanker story. Durai seems also genuinely surprised when he delivers the line "YOU are shooting at us!" in response to Michael and he wanted the building as intact as possible, it was pretty clear to me: when Scratch is about to set fire to the stairwell one of the Mallers protests they shouldn't do it, and I'm guessing not out of compassion for the occupants of the Tower.

    Great to hear old voices again, but as far as I can tell there are no new Angel recordings. I'm a bit curious as to where Shane Salk is, as he's also not producing this season.
    I was think that too. Scratch is so scared of Durai and I didn't know why. The Tanker is a good reason or maybe the visit to the tower could be another. She may have never told Durai of either thing. Your Kalani shoot theory does fit well. We do know that she does have a habit of keeping secrets from Durai since she plan the last assault without him knowing. Only thing I can't think about was her questions about cops being there and also why were guns at this tower a bigger issue to guns the other tower.

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    I listened to this twice yesterday, which I found difficult as I'm really tired of this side story of betrayal, I'm very happy to see it come to a close and I hope there is a return of some Zombies.

    I'm glad others have come to the conclusion that Scratch did a bit of a false flag attack on her own people to justify attacking The Tower crew. I think as others have noticed that this will be foreshadowing for a future potential conflict between Scratch and Durai. I do think Scratch will come out on top.

    As usual and expected, The We're Alive team is essentially flawless, great job guys!
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    Finally I'm back on here and it feels great!

    Listened to this today on my lunch break. Havent had time for anything recently as I have JUST BECOME AN UNCLE!! woop!!! LoL - Anyways, back to We're Alive.

    Firstly to the cast and crew - you are all f*cking amazing in every sense of the word. Kc, you sir, are an absolute legend. Just when I thought that the sound design and overall artistic way of telling this story couldnt get any better, you blow my expectations out of the water. Please don't stop - this is quite honestly some of the best stuff I have ever heard, which includes every form of media from movies to games.

    The montage of the war etc was simply mind blowing.

    So.Much.Win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clem131 View Post
    I think it was Scratch idea, not Durai's. The guys in the tower know what happened to the tanker for real, while back at the Mallers' the culprit was believed to be Carl. Not that I think Durai would give a damn about poor Carl, but I think Scratch realizes that if they'd capture the Tower occupants alive sooner or later this would come up and put Scratch and Latch in trouble. I think she had Kalani shoot because she wanted an excuse to take the tower by violence and kill the potential witnesses to the real tanker story. Durai seems also genuinely surprised when he delivers the line "YOU are shooting at us!" in response to Michael and he wanted the building as intact as possible, it was pretty clear to me: when Scratch is about to set fire to the stairwell one of the Mallers protests they shouldn't do it, and I'm guessing not out of compassion for the occupants of the Tower.

    Great to hear old voices again, but as far as I can tell there are no new Angel recordings. I'm a bit curious as to where Shane Salk is, as he's also not producing this season.
    She leaves briefly to tell (probably) Durai what Kalani has said and comes back with orders, so I think she got said orders from Durai. She has said more than once, I think, that she doesn't want to have to try and lie to Durai. She kills Carl to avoid being blamed and I think that shows fear of the consequences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eviebae View Post
    She leaves briefly to tell (probably) Durai what Kalani has said and comes back with orders, so I think she got said orders from Durai. She has said more than once, I think, that she doesn't want to have to try and lie to Durai. She kills Carl to avoid being blamed and I think that shows fear of the consequences.
    Ok, I got confused. You mean Charlie, not Carl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eviebae View Post
    She leaves briefly to tell (probably) Durai what Kalani has said and comes back with orders, so I think she got said orders from Durai. She has said more than once, I think, that she doesn't want to have to try and lie to Durai. She kills Carl to avoid being blamed and I think that shows fear of the consequences.
    I think she does acknowledge that Durai is in command, but she's still a rogue soldier, I think her choices time and time again prove that.


 
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