Chapter 27- The Thirty-First Part 3

[mudpuppy]

Early into listening to this episode, I came to realize that Kalani's daughter had red hair. Anyone figure out why I think so? I'll say more later about this.

[awkwardalex]

You know how I love to go off on random mini tangants so I'm sorry, but did anyone notice at the VERY end of this episode that you can hear the begining of what sounds like Pegs? maybe that's the first voice we hear next chapter...

Yeah I am no nikvoodoo but just a random thought.

[Shinigami]

Can Duncan also be identified as skittles? Same jumpy attitude/ sounds like he's having a mental breakdown. Cj also says Duncan ran off, never to be seen again and he appears to know kalani.

[John Bruno Tristan]

hannah is the girl killed when they try and make the "exchange" at the golf course! me thinks...

[Grognaurd]

[QUOTE=nikvoodoo;36188]

Oh so btw I got so wrapped up in all the content of this season I totally forgot to eat a touch of crow: The Mallers obviously did not go to the Other Tower now did they? QUOTE]

UGH, so much to write about too much work to get it done

Do not be too sure. I am still leaning towards the mallers using others as bait to locate the nest. When we parse what Kalani says, he siad he escaped, ran and then clocked on the head and then twice more. Now, this could just be coincidence of getting knocked down. But, to paraphrase Todd Wanio, Zach don't punch! These were the mallers...

We see others being dragged while conscious. No attempt was made to knockout Datu. Did the maller recon team knock Kalani out? Samantha was not knocked out. Nor the first dude. Tanya maybe...

[nikvoodoo]

What I meant by it was simply I had stated many times I believed the mallers had taken up residence at the other tower. But since cj is there by herself, thats that's not possible.

[Grognaurd]

I am going to guess that kalani took the shot. Maybe tried to hit Scratch or Durai. Also I have listened to season 1 a quadrillion times (actually probably around 5) and when Kalani first gets to the tower, he has guard duty the morning of the day they have the party. He probably called the Mallers in desperation.

Where would Kalani get a gun at the end of season 1?

If he had a gun of his own, he would have used it trying to escape the arena with Angel and Riley, so he most likely does not have a gun when he gets to the Tower. Guard duty does not seem to include a gun at this point in the story. Pegs leaves Kelly a romance novel and offers to leave Mr. Whiskers. But, no gun is mentioned. If Pegs and Paul had doubts about the man in the pinstripe suit, I think the gun would be referenced in the story. Paul may have been able to protect himself with the gun. If a gun is available, Burt would almost certainly say something, why didn’t you just shoot him? Or, “where is the gun now?” So, I am leaning towards no gun with guard duty. Guns at the tower are locked up with Burt, but the thief just struck. I cannot imagine Burt saying (in Steven’s stupid voice) “We do not let people run around the tower with loaded guns. But, since you are the new guy that no one knows, why don’t you take this gun and 20% of our remaining ammo? And no matter what, I will not ask for it back .”

Kalani cannot be the Thief and I cannot find any easy way for him to get a gun in season 1 to be the Shooter.

[nikvoodoo]

Kalani cannot be the Thief and I cannot find any easy way for him to get a gun in season 1 to be the Shooter.

There were a lot of drunk people around that night. Could be pretty easy to swipe a gun when a bunch of drunk people are trying to get into each other's pants.

[HaveCrowBarWillTravel]

I see we spent a good portion of this thread going over stuff again (Zombie emotions and whatnot) so let me add old info to the discussion.

The first indicator that they weren't normal came during the incursion after the introduction of Pegs. One creature hid from them.
The second was after Burt's rescue with the infected sleeping.

We already knew Pinstripe could read and thereby.. reason. He also displayed "fear" or maybe caution when he got into tower II and was playing dead until he found out they were out of ammo. He was going to attack until Bruh Saul whipped out his "Knife". He reversed course after eyeball'n that.

We had the reaction or lack of a reaction to Datu falling into the trap. He was captured, not killed.

The infected taking one person at a time and clearly picking who went and who stayed in the room

The Behemoths even show a level of reasoning from the Kalani/Angel/Skittles episodes.

Someone correct me, but I also remember hearing Mr. Suit chuckle after he caught Riley's arrow.

Ok, enough on that topic.

CJ.. CJ... CJ...
Her little hiding spot wasn't a Bug out bag. That was a weapons stash that only she knew about. She didn't even trust Shawn to know about it. Her paranoia cost them the tower. Piss Poor weapons storage cost them lives.

At first glance, it would seem like it was everyone for themselves (more so in CJ's case), but when you look at the rescue attempt (which is slightly puzzling..more on that later) you see a coordinated effort.

The "Rescue Attempt"
Who was leading it?? Did it not work because there was no leader? maybe it was Angel's poor leadership? Joking, joking...

CJ is holed up in the basement and Shawn and Hope are presumbably stumbling their way south about now, so it wasn't either of them.

My opinon on why CJ was left alone:
Simple reasoning. Risk vs Reward. They had enough people and she was in a defensible postion with an unknown quantity of ammo/weapons and showed the skill to use them.

I also think Duncan/Skittles was left alone simply as a "Ah Haa!"
Like a sick pat on the back.. a perverted "at'ta boy", thanks for letting us in.... now watch this!

[HaveCrowBarWillTravel]

Where would Kalani get a gun at the end of season 1?

If he had a gun of his own, he would have used it trying to escape the arena with Angel and Riley, so he most likely does not have a gun when he gets to the Tower. Guard duty does not seem to include a gun at this point in the story. Pegs leaves Kelly a romance novel and offers to leave Mr. Whiskers. But, no gun is mentioned. If Pegs and Paul had doubts about the man in the pinstripe suit, I think the gun would be referenced in the story. Paul may have been able to protect himself with the gun. If a gun is available, Burt would almost certainly say something, why didn’t you just shoot him? Or, “where is the gun now?� So, I am leaning towards no gun with guard duty. Guns at the tower are locked up with Burt, but the thief just struck. I cannot imagine Burt saying (in Steven’s stupid voice) “We do not let people run around the tower with loaded guns. But, since you are the new guy that no one knows, why don’t you take this gun and 20% of our remaining ammo? And no matter what, I will not ask for it back .�

Kalani cannot be the Thief and I cannot find any easy way for him to get a gun in season 1 to be the Shooter.

Why would Kalani be the only person the Mallers tried to use anyway? Doesn't make sense to try a tactic once. They had to have slipped someone in with the second group. Pippin was probably their 3rd attempt since we know his stories were false as hell.