Lock'n Loaded - Guns, Ammo, Military and Survival Stuff

[HaveCrowBarWillTravel]

Fail? Is that what that is? I thought it was some douchbaggery. :S

Thanks Nik! Thanks Crowbar! I should have known better than to believe there wasn't a thread dedicated to weapons.

Um.. yah, you sure should'a! ahhaha. I will say that I did the same search when I saw a couple new weapons threads pop up. I remembered that we'd went a few rounds on a couple, but couldn't find them either. I did the search thing and it burped too. I just broke out my electronic Kbar and started digging and found the older threads.

[HorrorHiro]

Wow, I wonder many of you haven't even thought twice about the human threat?

[reaper239]

check this vid:



silly yes, but i figured it did the job

[HaveCrowBarWillTravel]

Wow, I wonder many of you haven't even thought twice about the human threat?

What'cha talk'n bout Willis?

[reaper239]

Comparison of bullets, from left to right:
8mm Mauser, .303 British, 7.62x54R, 7.62x51 (nato), 7.63x39, 8mm Kurz, 7.62 nagant, 7.62x25, 9mm Parabellum and 9mm corto (.380 auto)

the 7.62x54r (third from the left) is for the mosin nagant i just got for $135. that's right, on the cheap. i also have a friend with a mauser. that is a fun gun. the next peice i want is a .380 (far right) it also makes me a little sad that they don't have a .45 or a 5.56 for comparison .

[reaper239]

here's a great pic for the rifle rounds. one thing important to note, the 5.56 is smaller than the 7.62, however because of the design of the 5.56 it does more damage to tissue. also the 7.62 has more bullet drop, but with the proper elevation, it will keep its velocity longer due to weight. that's why the iron sight on my mosin nagant goes out to 2000 meters, even though i prolly can't even see that far. it is my opinion that the 6.8 spc is a good personal defense round, good for close quarters, while the 6.5 grendel brings a little from both the 5.56 and the 7.62, and makes a good compromise of the two.

[HaveCrowBarWillTravel]

here's a great pic for the rifle rounds. one thing important to note, the 5.56 is smaller than the 7.62, however because of the design of the 5.56 it does more damage to tissue. also the 7.62 has more bullet drop, but with the proper elevation, it will keep its velocity longer due to weight. that's why the iron sight on my mosin nagant goes out to 2000 meters, even though i prolly can't even see that far. it is my opinion that the 6.8 spc is a good personal defense round, good for close quarters, while the 6.5 grendel brings a little from both the 5.56 and the 7.62, and makes a good compromise of the two.

If I had my druthers, 7.62 is what I'm throwing at a behemoth. Give me an old fashioned belt fed M60.. wait, what I'm I talking about. Those are HAF to carry! hhahha.
Anyway, I'd still pick a weapons system that allowed me to use the 7.62.

[Grognaurd]

ME, I want a .22 like Victor! Not! A starter's Pistol has almost the same amount of powder. On the other hand it is a really nice starter rifle. BB to pelet to 22 worked for me and my extended family. Shit, Dad has an ol .22 that has an octagonal barrel, single shot amd more than 100 years old.

Here is my 2x 1894 Winchester. Lever Action with a sadle ring to boot!

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[reaper239]

If I had my druthers, 7.62 is what I'm throwing at a behemoth. Give me an old fashioned belt fed M60.. wait, what I'm I talking about. Those are HAF to carry! hhahha.
Anyway, I'd still pick a weapons system that allowed me to use the 7.62.

against a behemoth? i'd go 120 mm smooth bore, that's right, i'm talkin' 'bout the Abrams. the M60 is heavy, but it is a beast. one of the best support weapons the military ever deployed. against regular zed though, it's a toss up: if i had an M60, i'd take it, but knowing how the 5.56 acts if i had to choose between an M4 and say a SCAR-L, i'd go M4 simply because i can carry more ammo and the 5.56 is just as effective against flesh, if not more so, than the 7.62.

check this:

[Jordan531]

First of all, don't knock .22 cal. It may seem like a small round but if it's cranial shots that count ya can't beat it. I have a Ruger 10/22 (one of my zombie go-to guns) with a few 30 round mags and the whole package is MUCH lighter and handier than my AR-15 with a similar loadout. Lighter recoil, quicker followups and you can carry thousands of rounds before it would get too heavy. Granted, it would do very little with body shots. Main use would be hunting small game.

Second, in a survival situation I'd steer clear of "exotic" weapons like the SCAR mentioned earlier. AR-15 parts are easy to come by and are interchangeable between most models. Not so much with guns like the SCAR. Also, think about chambering. Is it going to be easier to find American spec ammo like 5.56, .308, 9mm etc or foreign ammo like 7.62x39 (AK)?