Colored and Marked and Tattooed Ones Oh My!

[Th3_T3ch]

As far as we know, jumpers could not go that far. Sure, one jumped from building to building, but that doesn't mean he can cross LA with a couple hops. And yes they're fast, but they're as fast as cars and cars couldn't get you to destinations in seconds. Plus, I'm pretty sure it's physically impossible for a human to be that fast.

I am well aware of the limitations of jumpers. Nik is correct in saying that I think Pin-stripes would be faster jumping than running. What we see after the rescue team gets back to the tower is that Pin-stripes can take shots to the hand, jump out of at least three-story height, and run off into the distance avoiding Burt's shots. Pin-stripes really is a Pimp ass zombie.

[nikvoodoo]

Interesting. When talking to Skittles, Angel says that he didn't see the one with the markings, but Burt, Michael and Saul did. I'm pretty sure that he was there when they first met "it's Paul". Could this be a loophole/inconsistency?

Angel made it back to the action before "its paul" jumped out. This is either a loophole or angel was lying to skittles.

[ebeam]

you can see things without being able to take note of what is happening, maybe Angle saw him jump but because of the otherthings going on his attention was not on "its paul"

[Penguin]

I believe that the "colored one" is the guy from the tevo.. the man that they were talking about taking to the mental hospital.. because later on when Riley tries to kill the "colored one" what part of the hospital are they in? the mental part.

[Devilish Pizza]

First things first, I am of the opinion that Roberts is TOWTM, and that there are multiple pimp asses around the States/World, but just TOWTM in LA.....
Personally, I hope that his super intellect in comparison to the regular biter is not due to his paranoid schizophrenia. If this is the case there should be quite a few more than one, as the prevalence for schizophrenia is about 1 person per 200 population, and paranoid schizophrenia is the most common sub-type.
With that in mind, one would expect there to be hundreds of them given LA's ~4 million population around when the outbreak began. There must be something much more sinister at work there.

[Zombie-Bane]

Ok, my thoughts.

bill Roberts is the one with markings. He became a zombie when the government tried a new drug on him to cure his insanity. He turned into a zombie and began attacking people, turning them. He is more intelligent because he has the orginal drug in him. He takes people to the hospital trying to recreate what was done to him. That is why they are different from biters.

[Daddy Doom Bar]

Ok, my thoughts.

bill Roberts is the one with markings. He became a zombie when the government tried a new drug on him to cure his insanity. He turned into a zombie and began attacking people, turning them. He is more intelligent because he has the orginal drug in him. He takes people to the hospital trying to recreate what was done to him. That is why they are different from biters.

I agree. My theory about the outbreak being a drug test (whether its for warfare or just plain genetic engineering like the 28 Days Later Rage virus) ties in with this. I always thought Roberts was TOWTM, and that he's the original Nosferatu/zombie/infected. I think he got lose whilst being tested on and released whatever gas/drug was tested on him. That's what the funny air is at ground zero. Had Victor and Pegs stayed any longer they'd have turned, too.
The only thing is the news report that states there were riots in other cities, as well as internationally. Which suggest multiple outbreaks. Alien invasion? Perhaps it's an alien virus the government were testing on Roberts....I dunno....everything I think of has some hole in it somewhere.

[Methusalah1897]

Phew... okay so i just did my due diligence and read all 7 pages so as not to repost too horribly.

I was just introduced to this two weeks ago by a good friend of mine, so I listened to the whole thing all the way through in about 10 days. I have just started relistening to it today and got all the way through 4 and decided i needed to confer with some folk, so here i am. Pardon me if this gets long, but i have a lot floating around in my head right now.

My thoughts:

1. I think Bill Roberts, Ink, The Colored One, The One With Markings, Its Paul, and Pinstripes are all the same. I will cite an early post in this thread with all the evidence to support this ... (The whole post is on page 4)

Okay, so I was going to make this into a blog entry but that was way too much effort.

...and now i will provide one new thought that i haven't seen anyone spell out yet. (Though i have gotten the vibe that others are thinking it.) Several people have mentioned that there are two different hives of Zombies. The arena and the hospital. I believe these are one and the same. The mallers blew up the arena, and as such, the hive needed a new place, so they migrated. Unfortunately for Burt, Kalani, Riley and Angel, the whole hive happened to show up while they were there at the hospital.

2. Ink et al. i do not argue he is a sadistic bastard, although, i don't believe sadism is his motivation. I think he is using his intelligence to gather intelligence. For instance, in It's Paul. He may have only attempted to get into the tower, because he knew the best fighters (who he has already seen out and about several times) were gone. And he was smart enough to play dead... until Burt says he is out of ammo then *boom* he's up and out. Then there are all the "on a rooftop" sightings which seems like pretty cut and dry intel collection to me. And i think when he ran into Riley and Kalani in the hospital, he was likely just as surprised to find them there are they were him. He was probably just the first one in the building, heading back to his nastiness he knew was there. Then he laughed because he knew that surely they had seen his handiwork (which i currently have not developed a theory on that i am willing to share) and knew there was little more he needed to do to make them wet themselves after seeing all that. Or he may have been laughing because he knew his entire hive was swarming the building and figured there was no reason for him to chase them down because there was no way they would make it out alive.

3. I believe that Ink was patient zero. (i think i kinda stole that name half from a video game and half from doctor who but you get what i am saying) So in the aforementioned aforementioned aforementioned aforementioned aforementioned Tivo recording, because lizzy is blipping around with the controller, we specifically here the phrase "He is CURRENTLY being transferred to a mental health facility" twice. I don't think he ever got there. Furthermore, i think that ground zero, is where he was able to escape/kill/eat his escort/guards and so began the apocalypse. I realize this doesn't explain the international or even opposite coast outbreaks, at least not as written, but I'm working on that bit. I am also not opposed to the idea that he was being transported with some sort of experimental gas they were trying to use on him to "correct" him when maybe they got into an accident, it leaked, and happens to have a nasty, transferable, side effect on not-so-crazy people.

4. I am sure I will get some flak for this one, and I dont have a lot of what you might call "evidence" to support it, however, I am not entirely convinced that Ink et al. is even a Zombie and not still in fact a person. Or at least person totally tweaked out of his skull. Okay so maybe not a person, but not a Zombie either. Somewhere between.

[nikvoodoo]

4. I am sure I will get some flak for this one,

And here it comes!!!

and I dont have a lot of what you might call "evidence" to support it, however, I am not entirely convinced that Ink et al. is even a Zombie and not still in fact a person. Or at least person totally tweaked out of his skull. Okay so maybe not a person, but not a Zombie either. Somewhere between.

There's actually more evidence against it by the super human qualities he's exhibited. Specifically speed. If we believe the zombies can perform acts the regular survivors can't, then Ink definitely falls into at least your tweener category of not human/not zombie, or full fledged zombie.

Not to mention he got shot in the chest twice (I think it was twice) and got up and still jumped out a window and sprinted away. I'd vote for definitely not human.

[7oddisdead]

The thing I wonder is....if this was all just an experiment gone wrong....what if ink/towm is a version of experiment gone right?