Chapter 24 discussion- "The Harder They Fall"

[kek]

If you want to place blame, you could say that Saul's idea caused the death of nearly every tower member!

Although, to defend Saul, I think Scratch would have found a way to get the Tower eventually. She is conniving and resourceful. If Saul hadn't done what he did, it still could have gone down. But I do think Saul did rush into it and could have done better. It did cause huge damage and death, and that sucks. Saul did not have to go about it how he did, and he did mess up. But not entirely his fault, just partly his fault.

[clparson]

Woot! Lizzy is gonna have a baby! If she is alive, of course. The throwing up makes sense now.

[edgeworth]

While It is necessary for birth to occur, I'm Just worried of what could be the fate of a child in The We're alive universe which usually doesn't go well. :\

[archangel]

Scratch was definitely looking for a person at the end of the episode. Not an object.

My reasoning: She says, "Keep looking" right before Bricks calls her over to look at the man's body. When she tells Bricks to put him with the old man, that's when she says she found what she was looking for.

I don't know... the way the comment was worded still bothers me. She sees the man, whether Angel or someone else, and then she says "Put him in with the old man... I found what I was looking for." That pause between the sentences is what bothers me. Wouldn't she have phrased it differently? Wouldn't she have said something like, "There it is (or "There he is"), there's what I was looking for.." or something along those lines? To me, the way she phrased it sounds almost like an afterthought. Almost like she was saying, "Might as well take him along.. I already found what I was looking for." In that case, what she was looking for and the person they found would be unrelated. Just a thought.

By the way Britt, thanks for quoting me in your podcast. It was fun hearing my own quote read back to me.. )

[Jeebogs]

Absolutely brilliant!

Was away and had to wait over a week to listen to the finale, it was killing me! Made it all the sweeter though.

I'm thinking that Kalani the rat situation isn't going to be as cut and dry as "Kalai's the rat because his diary tells me so". What kind of under cover mole keeps a diary of being an under cover mole? If anything it will either be a confession or in some way coded.

Side note, though, in chapter 17 "There might be others" Part 3 (around 9.20) Skittles says he recognise's Kalani, right after saying he ran away from Angel and Kalani at the base because he thought they were the bad people.

[mylittlepwny]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9_h8XwP4Wg


If Burt ever dies

[rayray]

Has any one noted that on the Character profiles Burt is listed as unknown, but both Angel and Saul are listed as Alive. It says specifically under Angels profile "Was on the roof of the tower when it collapsed, and is presumed dead by surviving members of the tower." And all other minor charters are listed as dead unless we heard that they got out.

I think this saves Angel and Saul but Burt is still way up in the air, or splat on the ground? Did they list it that way because they cant say he is alive after he just fell off a bldg? But Angel was almost in the same situation right? and they are saying he is alive.

[cupcakezombie]

Has any one noted that on the Character profiles Burt is listed as unknown, but both Angel and Saul are listed as Alive. It says specifically under Angels profile "Was on the roof of the tower when it collapsed, and is presumed dead by surviving members of the tower." And all other minor charters are listed as dead unless we heard that they got out.

I think this saves Angel and Saul but Burt is still way up in the air, or splat on the ground? Did they list it that way because they cant say he is alive after he just fell off a bldg? But Angel was almost in the same situation right? and they are saying he is alive.

The Wiki is updated by members of the forum, not KC. Those status listings reflect the current thoughts and discussions of the forum. Burt is listed as unknown because there is major debate in the as to whether he is alive or dead, and we are assuming that all the minor characters are currently dead.
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[GD_Elite]

Okay, like 5th listen through and still new thoughts are coming to me.

Assuming that it Burt and Angel, are still alive. Burt would still be thinking that Angel is the rat. Set up for a situation next season, perhaps?

Saul was definitely thinking about trading Pegs, before seeing sense. Otherwise he wouldn't have lied to Kelly in 23-3.

How would Angel have known that tankers were used to blow up the arena? Maybe this is an inconsistency, but it could also be proof of conversations happening that we arent told about. Still, it seems like talking about the situation of the arena would have been one of the last things that Angel and Saul had to talk about.

Interesting how Pippin was sent in to see if Pegs was there first, rather than to see what the rat was up to. Hmm...

Burt has godly vision in this chapter, seeing things that Michael can't two times.

EDIT: new one - the tower members have got complacent about the zombies. Michael drove to LAX by himself, and Datu was left alone at LAX.

[usmcludwig]

How would Angel have known that tankers were used to blow up the arena?
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Because Saul reported back what he found when he was checking out the wreckage. Not to mention that all the way back in earlier chapters, they knew the Mallers had access to a couple of tankers.

(Which again, I don't think the tankers were ALWAYS intended on harming the Tower people. I think that they had their own plans before the Tower was even any knowledge to them)