Chapter 23 Pt 3 - The Devil's Workshop

[bequita]

Jesus H. Christ.

I cannot stop screaming with everything that came to light this episode!!!!!!!!!

Victor is totally pimp.

But Saul's the one tryin' to be tradin' ladies for ladies.

[Michael Farris]

I am conflicted on whether or not Saul having Pegs hostage for a trade is a bluff. On one hand, I wouldn't want to think of Saul as someone selfish enough to kidnap one of his friends for personal gain. On the other hand, Saul is an idiot.

[Wicked Sid]

If Saul Tink is the traitor/Rat, I'm going to have to yell from the rooftops:

"Called it!"

[Osiris]

Ok I forgot that it was Pegs who killed Scratch Time to do a relisten to that section of the season(s) to refresh it in my mind

Latch. Scratch is alive and kickin'... because she really IS all that.

[Miss]

Latch. Scratch is alive and kickin'... because she really IS all that.

hehe I meant latch was on the phone at the same time that I was typing so a little distracted,

[Osiris]

hehe I meant latch was on the phone at the same time that I was typing so a little distracted,

<3

[gamergirllovesu]

oh man great episode I'm on team "Saul is trading peggs". He sounded sinister enough to be considering such actions, but hes also Saul so he probably has some crazy show down plan that may involve the colony. As for the hospital i think the "Doctor zombie" has been there for quite some time i just think the arena was for fun and after the fun is had Dr.Z uses the spare parts. I mean where else can you find the needles and motors you need to do all the tattoos we have heard about you cant find those supplies at the arena. As for the rush of zombies I think after the explosion they all decided to go there because its their second base where they brought all there wounded to get Dr. Z to patch them up. Btw i loved the super creepy laugh! That made my day. That whole scene was interesting almost as crazy as Riley and Angel crawling in the corps pile.

[Heyyouinthebushes]

First, great episode! And great finish to an amazing chapter.

Now some thoughts:

Converting humans to zombies - this does seem plausible. The mental ward shop scene gives us reason to think some tinkering is going on (a la the claws and tattoos on the little ones). It also gives us a reason for why some humans were kept alive and others are food fodder. If zombie shop class was happening at the arena as well, we could see the return of Samantha in zombie form.

Pin Stripe - in one of the early posts of this chapter part (sorry for not giving credit where credits due, but am being lazy) it was speculated that pin stripe is a pawn in a larger plot. Since pin stripe has demonstrated intelligence, could his relative inaction with Riley and Kalani be a result of him having bigger fish to fry, namely figuring who/what is using him as a pawn? I fully recognize this has a lot of "ifs" that need confirming to be true, but the thought entered my mind and thought I'd share.

Trade bait - here are my predictions on who Saul has in mind in order from most to least likely:

Pegs - the obvious choice. Scratch wants to get her hands on Pegs, Pegs is accessible (relatively unguarded at LAX), and she is good bait in a bluff.

Saul himself - hard to know exactly why Saul would think they would trade Lizzie for himself, but I could see him thinking it was a heroic action. Also usable for a bluff.

The "rat" - Saul thinks Lewis is the rat, and he will think the Mallers will trade member for member.

The actual rat - hard to know how Saul would know who the actual rat is, but snooping around their former confines may have turned something up. Same rationale in trade as Lewis, member for member.

Latch's body - we don't know for sure Scratch picked up Latch's body, but it is reasonable to think so. Similarly, it is reasonable to think Scratch would have buried Latch's body. Saul's snooping around may have uncovered the burial site. It may seem a bit rude to desecrate Latch's grave, but Saul's in a desperate spot and any advantage helps.

Someone valuable picked up along the way - if Saul found someone valuable enough to trade, the reason is obvious. I don't like this option because it is too convenient.

Angel - remember back in season one when Latch and Scratch visit the tower (help with chapter-episode-time please) Scratch says she recognizes Angel. Also, Angel has the unsourced ability to hot-wire cars. Could this be the payoff to those setups? Saul's snooping could have turned up a connection. Again, this option has a lot of "ifs" as well (which is why it's my least likely), but it strikes me as a possibilty.

Sorry for the long post.

[Heyyouinthebushes]

Also, I don't think Saul has any intention of heading back to the tower or LAX because of the time consumation that it would take.

I would argue Saul does have time. Since Lizzie isn't dead yet, and her recordings revealed that the Mallers are purposefully keeping her, Lizzie's continued survival isn't a time concern. So, if Saul's trade is worth it to Scratch, there's reason to think she'd wait.

[HardKor]

I would argue Saul does have time. Since Lizzie isn't dead yet, and her recordings revealed that the Mallers are purposefully keeping her, Lizzie's continued survival isn't a time concern. So, if Saul's trade is worth it to Scratch, there's reason to think she'd wait.

Well I agree that Saul has every reason to think he has time. How much time he really has depends on when his part of the story is happening in relation to the Burt,Angel,Riley, and Kalani story. And also whether those four are taking the helicopter to the Tower of back to LAX. Saul could find himself interrupted.