Who's The Rat v2.0

[Grognaurd]

Yea the thief is rough. A lot of evidence points to Bill. But, Pegs did take care of Bill when his leg was infected. She could have accessed the key then. She would be familiar with the elevators and the breaker. If the thief / rat / killer is the same person, the only major characters available are Pegs and Kelley

[AdrianHD]

The thief has to be Bill. There's no doubt. He said sorry before he died. Which to me, signaled that he took the supplies.

[AMcJV12]

I have couple different thoughts on the rat/thief/killer. I don't know if any of these are accurate or even possible, but they are interesting to thinkmabout all the same. First of all, I think that they are all different people. Second, I think that Bill was the thief, due to his apology before his death. Also, it's possible that he may have been somehow involved with the mallers. I may be incorrect (it's been a while since I listened to that part of the story) but I seem to remember that the supplies dissapeared just before the mallers attacked. Maybe Bill somehow knew that the mallers were coming, stole the supplies to save himself, then had a change of heart and came back to help? Third, I think that the rat used to someone else who died (Bill?), and the new rat may be someone at the tower who is being blackmailed by the mallers. Maybe someone whose family has been captured, or who has someone important held in captivity? It would be interesting (if not very likely) if the rat was Saul or Riley, and the mallers have contacted them, saying they'll kill Lizzy if they don't follow orders? It would be another reason for Scratch to say she needs Lizzy. Lastly, the killer could be someone who doesn't nescisarily someone who wants to harm the tower (they didn't kill Hope, and they may have just been taking justice into their own hands), but the fact that the radio gets shot is... interesting. If it was someone at the tower, they would probably would know about the other radio. Is it someone from outside? Is it someone who didn't want the tower to hear something on the radio for a certain period of time? I honestly have no clue. Anyway, just a couple of crackpot theories. Please tell me how wrong I am by replying! Flames appreciated!

[cupcakezombie]

I have finally decided where I am going to stick my flag for the rat, and I think it is Kalani. Here are a few things that stick out for me:
- The situation surrounding Kalani and the other Tower. Was he actually there, wasn't he? He is recognised by Skittles, but almost seems like he is going out of his way to say that he doesn't remember Skittles.
- Kalani seems to be integrating himself well with whoever is charge of the Tower
- We have never asked or heard about what happened to the people that he cam from Hawaii with. Did he have friends or family with him, if so where are they. Could he have ended up in the other Tower in a similar way to Pippin? And after they were busted by the Zombies he was picked up by our Tower.
- I don't think that Kalani was able to get downstairs and out of the Tower before the alarm went off. I think that he left Michael, and was able to go down, set off the alarm (he is in the leadership crowd so would know where the wires are). He then shot Pippin and the radio. I think he shot the radio, so that by the time they got the new radio going, enough time would have past that he could suggest to Datu and others that they were well out when it happened.
- He was very interested in where Fort Irwin is. I know that as the pilot he does need to know, but tied in with the other things I was a bit worried when he asked about exactly where it is and why it is so good.
I think he supports the Tower now, at least more then he did at the start, but if that Mallers have one of his friends or family then there is a lot people will do to keep them safe.

[shanahan237]

My theory on pegs being the rat. She was one of the only named characters left in the tower during the rescue of Datu. The only others there were Liz, bill, tommy and Kelly. She was growing food for bill and helping him when he was sick so it is possible that she learned the hiding spot for the guns or they worked together. It was her idea to have the party and she is pretty demanding about it. Its the first thing she really pushes. Now I'm making a big guess but i think Duri might be pegs father in jail for a gun crime and thats why she hates guns at first. When she talks to him over the radio during the war his tone changes. I think Duri would get pretty annoyed at this point but he doesn't and its just a weird exchange. I think pegs didn't mean for the war to happen and thats part of why she was so depressed after the war. Also why she went on the colony mission to help her feel better about it. I think she is loyal to Michael now and that Pipen was a threat to her. I have a hard time seeing her as a cold blooded killer but desperate times. And i think she had left to go to the chopper when they gathered everyone to smell for gun powder. Most people who the people talk about knowing show up later in the story ie. Saul's mom, hope, angels girl, Saul's girl(dog). I went back and listened to the story with this in mind and it fit. First time on the forums and the only theories i have herd were on were not dead. So I'm sorry if you guys have already shot this down and have to read it again. And i keep hearing kolani and Riley but they were at the arena when the guns were stolen.

[nikvoodoo]

My theory on pegs being the rat. She was one of the only named characters left in the tower during the rescue of Datu. The only others there were Liz, bill, tommy and Kelly. She was growing food for bill and helping him when he was sick so it is possible that she learned the hiding spot for the guns or they worked together. It was her idea to have the party and she is pretty demanding about it. Its the first thing she really pushes. Now I'm making a big guess but i think Duri might be pegs father in jail for a gun crime and thats why she hates guns at first. When she talks to him over the radio during the war his tone changes. I think Duri would get pretty annoyed at this point but he doesn't and its just a weird exchange. I think pegs didn't mean for the war to happen and thats part of why she was so depressed after the war. Also why she went on the colony mission to help her feel better about it. I think she is loyal to Michael now and that Pipen was a threat to her. I have a hard time seeing her as a cold blooded killer but desperate times. And i think she had left to go to the chopper when they gathered everyone to smell for gun powder. Most people who the people talk about knowing show up later in the story ie. Saul's mom, hope, angels girl, Saul's girl(dog). I went back and listened to the story with this in mind and it fit. First time on the forums and the only theories i have herd were on were not dead. So I'm sorry if you guys have already shot this down and have to read it again. And i keep hearing kolani and Riley but they were at the arena when the guns were stolen.

First of all, Welcome to the forums

Second, I don't think anyone else on here has proposed the idea of Pegs being Durai's daughter. That is a very interesting theory indeed, and certainly would give Pegs a reason.

There's two things to keep in mind when it comes to our rat/thief situation: If Bill is actually the thief, Kalani and Riley aren't off the hook. If Bill did actually steal all those goods, then that reopens all doors leading to just about every character.

Second thing to keep in mind: Pegs couldn't have left for the chopper yet for the hand smell test. Kalani and Datu had just left minutes before Michael had Angel gather everyone together. There's at least 1 hour of time between Kalani leaving and calling for Pegs to travel to LAX, and it was during that one hour of travel that Datu and Kalani heard on the radio Michael and Angel executing their ruse of pinning the murder of Pippin on Lewis.

[Pikepaw]

Given the current evidence, I think it is most likely Kelly as the Rat, but I'm not ruling out Riley yet. The good thing about Pippen's murder is that it narrowed down our list of suspects quite a bit, assuming that the assassin and the rat are one in the same. It eliminates the three man soldiers, Burt, and most likely Datu and Kalani (I still hold out that it was possible for one of them to do it). It also means Bill could only be the thief, not the rat, as he is currently ashes. Also, if anyone had any theories that Tommy did it, (first listen through chapter 12, I did), well same story. I also stuck my "Kelly is the rat" flag (back when I hated her) in the ground long ago and I know we here support standing by your original theory.

The way I see the rat getting revealed though is through a conversation with Angel or Michael. Normal conversation, but then the Rat says something they shouldn't know, something about the Mallers or what happened during the radio conversation before the War that wasn't made common knowledge. I could see Michael suddenly catching on and being like, "How would you know that?" then the bulb lights up, slow dramatic music and "It was you!" dun, Dun, DUUUHHH!

[Grognaurd]

Well, Ra1th is going to hate me, but I can not rule out Angel.

Now that some are seeing red or have stopped reading already, I will again float my non-malicious rat. Just because the individual may have been in contact with the mallers does not mean that they conspired with the mallers to Pearl Harbour the tower.

So, the rat cuts contact with the mallers. Pippin shows up. The rat never owned up to the error in judgement making them appear more guilty than they are. The rat now ups the ante and commits murder of a perceived threat. Does the rat amp things up further? Kill Lewis and get away with it. How do Angel and Michael deal with that? After going that far, would the rat kill Angel or Michael to keep the secret.

Of courses the ultimate irony will be that We never learn who the rat is. Michael is writing down all he remembers to make sense of it. KC leaves it to us to make an opinion, but not enough facts to be conclusive.

In so many cases the coverup is worse than the crime.

[7oddisdead]

I'm starting to hope that we don't learn who the rat is til the end. Even though that will go against alot of the things I've been saying recently. All the characters who could possibly be the rat are far to important to the storyline to lose them, or lose faith in them. I suppose that's part if the plan though...damn

[Ra1th]

I'm starting to hope that we don't learn who the rat is til the end. Even though that will go against alot of the things I've been saying recently. All the characters who could possibly be the rat are far to important to the storyline to lose them, or lose faith in them. I suppose that's part if the plan though...damn

Just cause they r he rat doesn't mean thats the end of the story for them. There could be a stickpins about winning back he peoPles trust. Or a story about angel n michael hiding the traitor because the public wouldn't be able to handle the truth