Chapter 21- "Mark of the Beast" - Part 3

[Kn1ckerb0cker33]

just listened to chapter 18 again and noted that Victor mentioned to Pegs and Lizzy that during the early days of the outbreak, the USCG was using helicopters to rescue the people who built the colony - but after a few days they stopped coming

so maybe they were transporting them back to LAX?

That sounds about right. Transporting people from the location of the colony to LAX and onto planes to attempt an escape or relocation, but then again, where are the rest of the helicopters since they were only able to find one? Or maybe the other models were too small for what they needed and that was the only large one available. Ugh, I want the next episode already.

[Robalypse]

Interesting thoughts and arguments as usual. I felt a bit stiffed on this episode, only because I desperately wanted to know what happened after the previous episodes cliff hanger. Those first two episodes in Chapter 21 were so damned good though, it's ok to have one that's a little more low key.

I still think Pippin is a rat bastard, for many of the reasons already argued in this thread. Hopefully I'm not just giving KC and the actor playing him too much credit, but he sounded way too angry and defensive when being questioned (as was pointed out already). If I had really been through an enormous mess like he would have, including a zombie apocalypse and being made a slave to a bunch of hardcore felons, I could sit and be questioned all day with no problem. In fact I would probably assume I had sought out a bunch of morons if they didn't question me heavily.

I think ol' Pippin must have been quite a nasty con artist and that's why he was chosen for the job. He could of been busted up prior to being dropped at the tower to mask that he doesn't exactly match the picture in the passport. Even if it is a match, it still definitely could be a fake...though I'm guessing KC was kind of steering that out of the realm of possibility with Kelly and Michael's discussion. I would get someone with at least some experience or knowledge of the U.K. (possibly Riley?) to grill him and see how much he knows about where he's supposed to be from. Another thing that steers me in that direction is that a lot of the British, "We're Alive," fans have been decrying his accent. As much care seems to have gone into choosing the cast for this show by Shane and KC, I'm not sure they would have willy nilly chosen someone to pretend to play a genuine, British character.

I know very little little about helicopters or the USCG, but my thoughts were a Chinook? That seems like it would be a good bird to transport lots of people.

[BoomerXL]

Another episode....a ton more questions....can't wait for the next episode!

[WestonWisdom]

Hey, even Moriarty got caught.

Didn't he take Holmes with him? Seems like a victory to me.

[Kn1ckerb0cker33]

Another thing that steers me in that direction is that a lot of the British, "We're Alive," fans have been decrying his accent. As much care seems to have gone into choosing the cast for this show by Shane and KC, I'm not sure they would have willy nilly chosen someone to pretend to play a genuine, British character.

It might have been down to who was available and who wanted to do the podcast who could do a british accent. Unfortunately, after watching many episodes of the UK versions of Top Gear, The Office, Kitchen Nightmares, etc., I have to say Pippin's accent isn't super convincing but it gets the job done, so kudos to the actor for the effort.

Even Datu's accent annoyed me at times, since I'm Filipino and can recognize that accent instantly. However, like the actor (Jay Olegario) who voices Datu, I understand how difficult it can be to pull off a Filipino accent when you were raised in the states. Speaking english with a heavy Filipino accent only comes naturally to people raised there, so I commend his effort and I must say he's been getting much better.

[Leedo2502]

The Coast Guard does have the Sikorsky S-61R which can hold 28 passengers, but I'm sure they can squeeze in more in their situation, although that does create a problem in terms of where they could store supplies for their trip. Looks like a few will be left behind, Saul and Burt are already two less, assuming they don't find Lizzy. But since the Helicopter is shot up anyway, they aren't going anywhere anytime soon.

S-61 and SH-3 are the same bird, one is a military version the other is civilian

[Kn1ckerb0cker33]

S-61 and SH-3 are the same bird, one is a military version the other is civilian

Well aware of that, I did look at wikipedia after all

[Leedo2502]

Well aware of that, I did look at wikipedia after all

LOL Gotcha... I'm thinking that this was probably not a USCG bird KC was saying earlier in the forum that it wasnt the S-91 which the Coast Guard still uses and I'm guessing from his tone that it may be a bigger bird that's where I'm getting the MH/SH-53 idea from. KC was saying that the Nomenclature was going to be released later that the Nomenclature could be important.

Since the MH/SH-53 isn't used by the Coast Guard I'm thinking that it might just be some smoke and mirrors by some bigger group (maybe who ever initiated, or accidentaly let the outbreak happen). The Coast Guard is a more benign branch of the military and noone would fret seeing a flight of helicopters painted up looking like Coast Guard birds, the same can't be said for USAF or US Army birds.
I can't say this enough I may just be reading into this but maybe there is some subterfuge with the "Coast Guard" evacuation sites and Helicopters.

[HaveCrowBarWillTravel]

A ton. It could be as easy as one of the Tower members sleeping on guard duty and Pippen (or is it Pippin? Ugh.) letting the door open for a zombie to rip up the place a bit.
If he is throw-away character, he can do a ton.

He's guarded/watched. Plus they're already on high alert. He'd have to find a way to unlock his room, knock out or kill the person on duty AND find a way to call the creatures to the tower (not gonna happen since the Arena is on fire anyway).
They have a choke point set up for a reason... so anything getting in will do minimum damage before it's contained. They have more weapons, better weapons now as well.
To add to that, no one is going to be sleeping on duty again after Lizzie Gate anyway.

[HaveCrowBarWillTravel]

LOL Gotcha... I'm thinking that this was probably not a USCG bird KC was saying earlier in the forum that it wasnt the S-91 which the Coast Guard still uses and I'm guessing from his tone that it may be a bigger bird that's where I'm getting the MH/SH-53 idea from. KC was saying that the Nomenclature was going to be released later that the Nomenclature could be important.

Since the MH/SH-53 isn't used by the Coast Guard I'm thinking that it might just be some smoke and mirrors by some bigger group (maybe who ever initiated, or accidentaly let the outbreak happen). The Coast Guard is a more benign branch of the military and noone would fret seeing a flight of helicopters painted up looking like Coast Guard birds, the same can't be said for USAF or US Army birds.
I can't say this enough I may just be reading into this but maybe there is some subterfuge with the "Coast Guard" evacuation sites and Helicopters.

I'm still having trouble finding an American made helo large enough (that isn't a Chinook) to transport 20 plus people, one dog, one cat, all of Burt's weapons/Ammo, 2 or 3 pallets of MREs, tools, misc equipment and whatever water and clothes they bring.
They could rig a pallet under the bird or birds but the newbie pilot wouldn't know how to compensate for the weight shifting during flight.