Wnd #60

Put your thoughts here about 38-3 and we might bring it up on WND 60!

In response to your theory on Kelly, I don't think it makes any sense for her to be working with the mallers. She has been involved in 2.5 armed conflicts with them (the return to the colony being the 1/2 conflict), and I just don't see her working with/for them. What seems more likely for me is that she is working for CJ. I could see her talking with CJ after Michael shoots her down and CJ asking her to gather more information on Michael and everything else going on. Maybe she even went to Michael to ask to be part of his away team by request of CJ to spy/keep an eye on him.

Hell, she could even be doing a double agent thing, and be pretending to help CJ to get on her good side so she can figure out what has happened to her man Vic. The original tower group (minus Peggs) is just too strong to fall apart under CJ's new world order. I think their unity is the strength the title is hinting at.

Hi there,

also in response to your theory about Kelly:

Yes, I think you have a point about what's happening there, because there is no direct information available telling the audience why Kelly behaves like she behaves. So, why does she avoid laundry-duty, if Michael does or did not send her to Tanya, and why does she want to dig into the information over there? I think, this is a solid question with a high voltage potential for crackpot theories going wild.
When I listened to #38-2 I just thought to myself: "Ok, now she is with Tanya, and she claims to be sent by Michael; this actually did not happen life on podcast, but maybe he really decided this way and Kelly simply followed his order (or suggestion)." So, how much assumption is this, or how close is this to the "reality" within We're Alive?
I am quite certain that Kelly is tired of being treated like a useless member of the community who is just capable of doing laundry; it is true - you may think of lawyers whatever you like -, but becoming a lawyer asks for certain skills and talents and also establishes certain qualities as well - bad ones as well as usefull and good ones. And maybe Kelly did just, what Burt and Riley did with bailing out: she took matters into her own hands - in order to be much more useful for the survivors ... ? To quote Michael: "Kelly ... well, is just Kelly."

I wonder, if #38-3 will offer some insight into her new role ...

Best wishes!
Liam

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Originally Posted by deserteagle

In response to your theory on Kelly, I don't think it makes any sense for her to be working with the mallers. She has been involved in 2.5 armed conflicts with them (the return to the colony being the 1/2 conflict), and I just don't see her working with/for them. What seems more likely for me is that she is working for CJ. I could see her talking with CJ after Michael shoots her down and CJ asking her to gather more information on Michael and everything else going on. Maybe she even went to Michael to ask to be part of his away team by request of CJ to spy/keep an eye on him.

Hell, she could even be doing a double agent thing, and be pretending to help CJ to get on her good side so she can figure out what has happened to her man Vic. The original tower group (minus Peggs) is just too strong to fall apart under CJ's new world order. I think their unity is the strength the title is hinting at.

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My only thing with her working with CJ is CJ and Michael are working together....it's not like CJ is trying to withhold this information she's about to go through. They want to hand out the cards.

Maybe the Unity Makes Strength is all about the zombies. I got nothin'. at this point, I'll agree with people who are saying that the survivors are weaker now that they are divided and the title is being used to put that into sharp focus.

Liam could be right too, and it probably makes the most sense beyond a crackpot "Kelly is a double agent" theory....we just didn't hear it and she is legit just doing what Michael asked her (ahem ordered) her to do off screen...at least I think that's what Liam was talking about. I'm tired.

I'm in the camp that Kelly is "working for" CJ in 38-2.

Kelly just got snubbed by Michael (again?). CJ knows about the journals and probably knows that Tanya is collecting all the info in a central spot. CJ is a well known information gatherer/hoarder. She has "negotiated" a fragile peace with Tanya but probably wouldn't get good cooperation from Tanya if she just showed up and said "give me all the info". CJ is definitely conniving enough to hook onto Kelly's current situation to enlist her into getting the info for her. CJ and Kelly concoct the "Michael sent me" story to get past Tanya's defenses. Kelly suggests sleeping to Tanya as she wins her confidence. This allows at least some time of free access to the info before there is any chance of discovery.

If this is all true, I think it fits with CJ's MO and leads me to believe that she doesn't really care if she gets found out when it comes to Michael. I believe CJ is only dragging him along and plans to get what she needs from him before jettisoning him. This is predicated on her belief that she can also get the loyalties of some of the soldiers and kick out the others.

Hmmm, I guess this probably belongs in the 38-2 or WND 59 threads.... Oh well. :D

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Originally Posted by scbubba

I'm in the camp that Kelly is "working for" CJ in 38-2.

Kelly just got snubbed by Michael (again?). CJ knows about the journals and probably knows that Tanya is collecting all the info in a central spot. CJ is a well known information gatherer/hoarder. She has "negotiated" a fragile peace with Tanya but probably wouldn't get good cooperation from Tanya if she just showed up and said "give me all the info". CJ is definitely conniving enough to hook onto Kelly's current situation to enlist her into getting the info for her. CJ and Kelly concoct the "Michael sent me" story to get past Tanya's defenses. Kelly suggests sleeping to Tanya as she wins her confidence. This allows at least some time of free access to the info before there is any chance of discovery.

If this is all true, I think it fits with CJ's MO and leads me to believe that she doesn't really care if she gets found out when it comes to Michael. I believe CJ is only dragging him along and plans to get what she needs from him before jettisoning him. This is predicated on her belief that she can also get the loyalties of some of the soldiers and kick out the others.

Hmmm, I guess this probably belongs in the 38-2 or WND 59 threads.... Oh well. :D

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Is there a WND 59 threat available? Wasn't yesterday ...

And very thoughtful approach about the complex issues between the three women using Michael as a (bad?) excuse ... Do the means justify the cause? Or was it: does the cause justify the means? Ah, well ... You get the point.

I do not know. CJ is all about CJ. If CJ tasks Tanya, I would bet it is more about what did they write about CJ than about the biters or the mallers. We Know Bixby and Gatekeeper are dead, so Victor must have buckled down and did more than just "play nice" like he said when he tried to first start a journal in the Tower.

With Bixby and Gatekeeper dead, we know he wrote some.

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Originally Posted by scbubba

I'm in the camp that Kelly is "working for" CJ in 38-2.

Kelly just got snubbed by Michael (again?). CJ knows about the journals and probably knows that Tanya is collecting all the info in a central spot. CJ is a well known information gatherer/hoarder. She has "negotiated" a fragile peace with Tanya but probably wouldn't get good cooperation from Tanya if she just showed up and said "give me all the info". CJ is definitely conniving enough to hook onto Kelly's current situation to enlist her into getting the info for her. CJ and Kelly concoct the "Michael sent me" story to get past Tanya's defenses. Kelly suggests sleeping to Tanya as she wins her confidence. This allows at least some time of free access to the info before there is any chance of discovery.

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Originally Posted by scbubba

If this is all true, I think it fits with CJ's MO and leads me to believe that she doesn't really care if she gets found out when it comes to Michael. I believe CJ is only dragging him along and plans to get what she needs from him before jettisoning him. This is predicated on her belief that she can also get the loyalties of some of the soldiers and kick out the others.

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Oh well.... :hsugh:

Meant to post episode thoughts over here too. Running short of time at the moment so I'll cross post from the 38-3 thread...

Oh man! It's absolutely amazing how the tone and feel of the entire episode can be changed with several seconds and a few words. Michael's voice over at the end was worth every bit of waiting that we may have done recently....

So, we got Saul, Lizzy, and Victor established in Dunbar.

Everyone is puling together in the Colony - Michael got more solidly into CJ's camp with the whole Burt and Riley thing. The soldiers are all still "his" people, so if Michael is in tight, they are in tight. And with the establishment of assigned journaling duties, I expect to hear more from them directly and not just through other character's observation. I would LOVE to read Puck's journal.... :cool: And we now know that Kelly is still a "good girl" and really working for Michael. That actually makes me feel better.

Burt and Riley could be established for the 4 months. Their conversation around having food and water and establishing a base camp sets the stage for a long term campaign.

If we get the 4 month time jump in 39-1, I expect we'll get a bit of a check in on all the parties and nothing too exciting will have happened. 4 months should bring us to Lizzy's due date and bring us close to Z-day +1 year. And then there is the Randy thing..... :squint:

Anyway, lots of stuff other than Michael's ending to love in this episode. Saul and Lizzy's fight and make up was pretty good. I could feel Saul's anxiety during the beginning and once we found out it was a ring, it was so perfect!

Michael is getting back to being more, well, Michael. A lot less brooding and feeling overwhelmed. I think he has felt a weight lifted with CJ running the show. I have a feeling that in 4 months, a lot of that will change for him.... We also get that Pegs and Michael are going to be able to coexist and, perhaps, more....

Second place for best dialog in the episode (after Michael's big bomb) goes to the Fort Irwin Kings of Comedy:
Robbins: "Yeah he was. Look at that. And CJ just left a minute ago, too. Damn, son! She just got outta the hospital!"
Puck: "Michael, you're a little slut"

Robbins: "We should be taking numbers here. Jesus, you can't just be hogging it all for yourself."
Carl: "I don't even know what to say."
Robbins: "Of course you don't, Princess"
Puck: "That's cause you're virgin!"

And of course, the ending. I thought the episode was done with "It's time we get started!"
I actually got goose bumps during Michael's voice over after that. And my jaw fell on my desk when he said Randy's name... :yay:

During #37 and #38 we had two things:
a) things got wrapped up and set into a certain order;
b) a lot of new plotlines were established which will allow some amazing storytelling with the show going on.

Four months are to be covered. What will happen next? Especially with Scratch and Tardust?

The last thing we heard about them was that they left the Colony in order to survive. But did they survive? Considering the additional plot-line with Burt and Riley it is quite certain that we will meet Scratch (and Tardust) again. But what is it they would have done during 4 months? Just surviving by scavenging from house to house, living with canned food? Or would they have tried to find other survivors in order to re-establish a cooperation with slaves and shit like what they did back in the Mall or the Colony? What would their plans look like?

And what about Skittles? The last thing we saw from him was when he helped Kalani and Angel to get rid of the Behemoth and get their car running again. After that we learned about him becoming Skittles. But ever since there was nothing at all. With the time-lapses from the flight to Irwin and Boulder over the fall of Irwin and Boulder to the reclaiming of the Colony and now the reappearance of Randy there are like 7 to 8 months in which Skittles did exactly what? Did he survive? Or is he out of the story? And if he survives, what role will he play in this story of survival?

Yeah, I know: Randy is the big cliff-hanger in #38-3. But I leave that to you to discuss. :yay:

Best wishes!
Liam

Latch and scratch seemed to move around pretty easily. Duncan even tells CJ they ran right by him and someone even told them to "leave her"

So Michael addresses this in this week's episode. He did send Kelly to work with Tonya. Wanted to throw my thoughts out there when I listened to last week's We're Not Dead, but the issue took care of itself.

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Originally Posted by LiamKerrington

During #37 and #38 we had two things:
a) things got wrapped up and set into a certain order;
b) a lot of new plotlines were established which will allow some amazing storytelling with the show going on.

Four months are to be covered. What will happen next? Especially with Scratch and Tardust?

The last thing we heard about them was that they left the Colony in order to survive. But did they survive? Considering the additional plot-line with Burt and Riley it is quite certain that we will meet Scratch (and Tardust) again. But what is it they would have done during 4 months? Just surviving by scavenging from house to house, living with canned food? Or would they have tried to find other survivors in order to re-establish a cooperation with slaves and shit like what they did back in the Mall or the Colony? What would their plans look like?

And what about Skittles? The last thing we saw from him was when he helped Kalani and Angel to get rid of the Behemoth and get their car running again. After that we learned about him becoming Skittles. But ever since there was nothing at all. With the time-lapses from the flight to Irwin and Boulder over the fall of Irwin and Boulder to the reclaiming of the Colony and now the reappearance of Randy there are like 7 to 8 months in which Skittles did exactly what? Did he survive? Or is he out of the story? And if he survives, what role will he play in this story of survival?

Yeah, I know: Randy is the big cliff-hanger in #38-3. But I leave that to you to discuss. :yay:

Best wishes!
Liam

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Ohhh. Damn fine question, Liam!
The first thing that comes to mind for me is Victor, Saul, and CJ living in LA for the 3.5 months after the Tower collapsed. No real stories of run-ins with normals or Little Ones or anything between the Tower falling and the helo landing that picked up the Little One of Mass Destruction that headed to Boulder. Now, they had a solid base of operations and a network of safe houses and such (thank you, CJ). So they did have a leg up.

But, outside of the training areas near Fort Irwin and those few days of hell in Boulder and Fort Irwin, the day of the helo in LA, and the Colony attack, we have very little reported zombie encounters for several months. Maybe there just aren't that many around LA anymore? Thanks to natural selection (or intelligent design or whatever), we are left with fewer, but way more powerful, zombies in LA. We have seen how they can bide their time and make strategic decisions (Tanya and I share a :tinfoil:) so it's not out of the realm of believability that they have also been in a regroup and replan phase like their human counterparts.

But none of those rascals was good enough to carry a damned journal so we're left here in the dark....... :mad:

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But none of those rascals was good enough to carry a damned journal so we're left here in the dark....... :mad:

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Think how excellent that would be... a journal from the undead mind!.. like an after show special that KC can do alongside the origin of the yacht...

would it go something like this?

grrr hrrr *rasp* choke * grr.. *ii'm.. p-paul*.. grr choke.. *rasp. hiss.. *leave her!*.. choke. rasp.. grrr hrrr teletubbies.

or

*enter upper class british accent*
day 72. i find myself once again turning to my eloquent and learned colleagues within our makeshift amphitheatre, discovering our newfound vision within our own seemingly inhospitable environment, giving in to our compellling nature to analyse, dictate and record our findings in our own tome that may stand the test of time. our own proverbial graffiti on the wall of life.....

but i digress....

excellent chapter finale.. another teaser to leave us for another 2 weeks of nailbting torture to find out more about Randy and Michaels broken arm.

Riley seemed a bit reluctant to leave in the end up. and obviously not as excited as Burt was now that they're on the hunt.. I hope they succeed.. they deserve to succeed.. and Jenna mCcombie.. I luvs ya.. but i wants to see ya goin down ole Shirley style.

and poor Vic.. one of the coolest characters.. stuck being the biggest third wheel of all.. Dunbar may well turn out to be the apocolypse setting of a revamp of "My two Dads"

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So they did have a leg up.

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hahaha
As long as I am in a playful mood. Pegs asks Michael about his arm, Puck burst into the room, CJ has updated your list

Hi there,

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But, outside of the training areas near Fort Irwin and those few days of hell in Boulder and Fort Irwin, the day of the helo in LA, and the Colony attack, we have very little reported zombie encounters for several months. Maybe there just aren't that many around LA anymore? Thanks to natural selection (or intelligent design or whatever), we are left with fewer, but way more powerful, zombies in LA. We have seen how they can bide their time and make strategic decisions (Tanya and I share a :tinfoil:) so it's not out of the realm of believability that they have also been in a regroup and replan phase like their human counterparts.

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actually there were never really a lot of zombs around ... But sure, over the time the zombs thinned out to a certain degree. And yet they were able of surrounding the Colony at the end of season #3 ...

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So Michael addresses this in this week's episode. He did send Kelly to work with Tonya. Wanted to throw my thoughts out there when I listened to last week's We're Not Dead, but the issue took care of itself.

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Yeah.... So I was just a little bit wrong. By a little, I mean a lottle.

Yeah, I'm cross postin' this summa beeyuch.

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Saul & Lizzy and Victor makes Three.
Wow, great writing for Lizzy's part, KC.

Mars speaking: It's like Saul was wrong even for not doing anything wrong. If CJ did something wrong then Saul gets punished. it not like HE kissed CJ. It not like HE sharked CJ to expose her boobies. He didn't want to mention anything because he accurately anticipated the reaction that Lizzy has.

Venus speaking: Saul was wrong for not telling Lizzy everything up front. If he didn't trust her enough to handle those tidbits then how can she trust that he told her everything. Also, if....

Witch Doctor interrupting: "Ughhhh!!!! There is NO WAY for a guy to win this conversation EVEN though he is right! :mad:"

Saul then tries to show how ridiculous Lizzy's fears are about a CJ/Saul hook up in the WORST way possible. He brings up the the furniture store. I don't think Saul in any way meant to imply that Lizzy jumped a Maller's bones but was showing how, even though he had worries and doubts, he didn't push Lizzy into feeling guilty for hiding something. Instead, she misinterprets this as him comparing CJ attempted Booty Call to Tardust's attempted rape.
Funny thing in this sequence was when Saul mentions CJ's kiss, he sounds like a 6 year old trying to convince his buddies that he didn't catch cooties from Becky-Sue. "She tried to kiss me but I was like, yuck, no way!" :melt:


Kelly is... Kelly, she's ok
I guess we can put to rest any thoughts of Kelly going rogue or being a Maller/CJ spy. Michael confirms that he assigned her to help Tanya.


It's CJ or the Highway
Wow, I just don't know if I like her or hate her anymore. Sounds a lot like a threat she dished over Burt. Yeah, yeah, it would be a threat to her control if everybody knew that Burt did what he did on his own without permission (Dang, payback's a bitch, huh, Burt.), but she convinced Micheal of her point of view by bringing up the military & AWOL. Micheal accepts this, sounds legit right? BULL!!! Big picture Mike!!!! This ain't the military and Burt's not a soldier anymore. CJ even rips up the paper to discard the evidence. Then they lie to Victor and Saul about it. Did Micheal just make his bones? Is he gonna kiss CJ's ring? We're seeing her do dishonest things to stay in power. Not that she is using her authority for personal reasons like exiling Saul & Victor for anything other than the good and well being of the Colony. I'm bringing back my assertion that the Chapter's Title has a fascist ring to it. CJ is the center of a personality cult.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0


Micheal & Pegs - sgeP & laehciM
Boy, did these two trade places. Now Micheal is the pursuer who doesn't understand where he fits into the relationship and Pegs is the non-committal duty-bound jerk. OK, jerk is too hard. As much Pegs-hate that this board has, she does seem to be rather level headed. In the beginning she tried to find love during Armageddon while everyone was busy trying to survive. She didn't have a real niche or something to do so she couldn't complete all of Micheal Three Things (The Two Things plus the one other thing he could think of) so, over compensate by falling in love. Micheal, on the other hand doesn't have the weight of the world on his shoulders anymore, he has a place and he's ready to commit. From his point of view only time has passed between them. From Peg's point of view, time, another relationship, probably a loss too separates them. Kudos to Micheal for biting his tongue when responding to Peg's comment about jumping from relationship to relationship. I think if he did finish what he was about to say then it would have made matters worse, not better. Like Saul's mama told him, 'If you truly care about someone, never stop fighting for them." On that note, we find out that Saul's dad left the family. In all honesty, he was married to Tanya! Seriously, she must have gotten married with one of those Frodo Rings.

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so yea...




http://www.zombiepodcast.com/forum/a...1&d=1381210874




OOOOOOOOHHHHHHYYyeeeeeeeAAHHHH.

With Lizzy and Saul getting hitched does anyone think this may follow the path of Game Of Thrones Red Wedding? Damn Kc for that cliff hanger!

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With Lizzy and Saul getting hitched does anyone think this may follow the path of Game Of Thrones Red Wedding? Damn Kc for that cliff hanger!

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Don't watch Game of Thrones, nor have I read the books so I have 0 idea what you're talking about.

However if its anything like the Weasley wedding in Deathly Hallows I'm totally on board with you!

Think Weasley wedding on steroids. Then times it by ten.

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With Lizzy and Saul getting hitched does anyone think this may follow the path of Game Of Thrones Red Wedding? Damn Kc for that cliff hanger!

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SPOILER 

The Red Wedding is one of the best scenes in the whole series (I've only read the books - haven't seen GoT Season 3 yet). A wedding turned full scale battle would be a bit of a change of pace.... :yay:

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Think Weasley wedding on steroids. Then times it by ten.

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Umm.. Wow.

SPOILER 

A Potronus talking saying the Minister was killed and a bunch of Death Eaters appearing to try and capture Harry, who currently looks like a red headed muggle, the weasly's are saying is their cousin.

That on steroids? It kills me that I can't think of the right term for "appearing". 😞 my knowledge has slipped since the good-ole GD days.

Listening again this morning during a lull in the workday. When I got to the end of the episode with Michael's voice over something struck me.... He's writing in the way past tense. This journal entry is being written after the events that occur 4 months after the events of 38-3... In a lot of cases, we are reading/hearing read journal entries that were written close in time to the events covered. In some cases that's obviously not true (Kalani catching up the events leading up to him being at the Tower was obviously not written until after he got to the Tower and Burt obviously wasn't writing in a journal while in Scratch's fun dungeon).

"How optimistic we were. And foolish... It would be 4 months before we would find something..."

Does this mean that Michael didn't journal during that time (unlikely) or that nothing worth transferring to the "master record" occurred (maybe implied)? Anyway, this almost comes of as something other than a regular journal entry to me. Almost like Michael might be responding to someone else asking him a question. I assumed at first that the scritch-scritch of pencil on paper was Michael writing. But it could just as easily be someone else recording what he is saying during questioning....

Maybe it does play out like Merlin1274 thinks it will.

Either way, it also points to Michael surviving long enough after the upcoming events to either write it down or be questioned.

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Listening again this morning during a lull in the workday. When I got to the end of the episode with Michael's voice over something struck me.... He's writing in the way past tense. This journal entry is being written after the events that occur 4 months after the events of 38-3... In a lot of cases, we are reading/hearing read journal entries that were written close in time to the events covered. In some cases that's obviously not true (Kalani catching up the events leading up to him being at the Tower was obviously not written until after he got to the Tower and Burt obviously wasn't writing in a journal while in Scratch's fun dungeon).

"How optimistic we were. And foolish... It would be 4 months before we would find something..."

Does this mean that Michael didn't journal during that time (unlikely) or that nothing worth transferring to the "master record" occurred (maybe implied)? Anyway, this almost comes of as something other than a regular journal entry to me. Almost like Michael might be responding to someone else asking him a question. I assumed at first that the scritch-scritch of pencil on paper was Michael writing. But it could just as easily be someone else recording what he is saying during questioning....

Maybe it does play out like Merlin1274 thinks it will.

Either way, it also points to Michael surviving long enough after the upcoming events to either write it down or be questioned.

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Yea.. Someone else is on my line of thinking..

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With Lizzy and Saul getting hitched does anyone think this may follow the path of Game Of Thrones Red Wedding? Damn Kc for that cliff hanger!

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Now that would just be wacked.. I hated that part in the book and the TV Series.. ARRRGGGGGG!!!! Don't do it KC...

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Listening again this morning during a lull in the workday. When I got to the end of the episode with Michael's voice over something struck me.... He's writing in the way past tense. This journal entry is being written after the events that occur 4 months after the events of 38-3... In a lot of cases, we are reading/hearing read journal entries that were written close in time to the events covered. In some cases that's obviously not true (Kalani catching up the events leading up to him being at the Tower was obviously not written until after he got to the Tower and Burt obviously wasn't writing in a journal while in Scratch's fun dungeon).

"How optimistic we were. And foolish... It would be 4 months before we would find something..."

Does this mean that Michael didn't journal during that time (unlikely) or that nothing worth transferring to the "master record" occurred (maybe implied)? Anyway, this almost comes of as something other than a regular journal entry to me. Almost like Michael might be responding to someone else asking him a question. I assumed at first that the scritch-scritch of pencil on paper was Michael writing. But it could just as easily be someone else recording what he is saying during questioning....

Maybe it does play out like Merlin1274 thinks it will.

Either way, it also points to Michael surviving long enough after the upcoming events to either write it down or be questioned.

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Woah...very interesting.

Just to kinda play devil's advocate here though there's a few things that might not point to this. One is why would they have him read the entries aloud? I mean can't they read it themselves? I'm no expert in court matters, though. Especially not a military court, so maybe that is the way they would do it. It seems to me, however, that if they were questioning him they would have the entries in front of them and have Michael answer questions from memory to see if the stories varied at all, or just to verify the events. Also, at this point I don't see much relevance in what Michael is saying to whether he should be dishonorably discharged or whatever the punishment would be.

The other thing, and this one is iffy because it could be attributed to several different things, but Michael's tone seems a little too story teller mode to be on trial or giving answers while being questioned.

I do think there is something to this though, because Michael is speaking in very past tense. I just can't think of what that could mean.

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Listening again this morning during a lull in the workday. When I got to the end of the episode with Michael's voice over something struck me.... He's writing in the way past tense. This journal entry is being written after the events that occur 4 months after the events of 38-3... In a lot of cases, we are reading/hearing read journal entries that were written close in time to the events covered. In some cases that's obviously not true (Kalani catching up the events leading up to him being at the Tower was obviously not written until after he got to the Tower and Burt obviously wasn't writing in a journal while in Scratch's fun dungeon).

"How optimistic we were. And foolish... It would be 4 months before we would find something..."

Does this mean that Michael didn't journal during that time (unlikely) or that nothing worth transferring to the "master record" occurred (maybe implied)? Anyway, this almost comes of as something other than a regular journal entry to me. Almost like Michael might be responding to someone else asking him a question. I assumed at first that the scritch-scritch of pencil on paper was Michael writing. But it could just as easily be someone else recording what he is saying during questioning....

Maybe it does play out like Merlin1274 thinks it will.

Either way, it also points to Michael surviving long enough after the upcoming events to either write it down or be questioned.

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He says back in 1.1 that he's writing all this Down in the hope that it'll make more sense to him... Not really for anyone to read, but for his own sanity.
About Randy... He says "The day that Randy and I would see each other Again". In my head this Means that they're actually going to meet each other.At least Michael isn't just spotting Randy from a distance... Randy sees him as well.
Looking forward to hear what's happening in these four months... But I'm looking even more forward to hear what happens afterwards. :D

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so yea...




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OOOOOOOOHHHHHHYYyeeeeeeeAAHHHH.

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hmm.. maybe Randy isn't like the Macho Man......

maybe Randy, is not his name, but in actual fact a description Michael gave him because of his Amorous activities.... O.o... much how Angel labelled Skittles?

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hmm.. maybe Randy isn't like the Macho Man......

maybe Randy, is not his name, but in actual fact a description Michael gave him because of his Amorous activities.... O.o... much how Angel labelled Skittles?

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one problem....cj called him Randy as well. Maybe she also found him "Randy"... (?)

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Originally Posted by 7oddisdead

one problem....cj called him Randy as well. Maybe she also found him "Randy"... (?)

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Ma Momma always says, As Randy is, a Randy does.

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Originally Posted by 7oddisdead

one problem....cj called him Randy as well. Maybe she also found him "Randy"... (?)

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Zoinks! I think it was Sean that said you better send Randy and other techies.

Dude gets around...

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Originally Posted by Grognaurd

Zoinks! I think it was Sean that said you better send Randy and other techies.

Dude gets around...

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oh wow...i just remembered the name drop...not who said it...

Macho indeed....

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Originally Posted by 7oddisdead

oh wow...i just remembered the name drop...not who said it...

Macho indeed....

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Sounds like there was a whole lotta people at Dunbar saying OOOOOOOOHHHHHHYYyeeeeeeeAAHHHH!!!! :cool:

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Originally Posted by scbubba

Sounds like there was a whole lotta people at Dunbar saying OOOOOOOOHHHHHHYYyeeeeeeeAAHHHH!!!! :cool:

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next thing, the Undertaker would show up.. oh.. oh.. Undertaker... thats what the zombies need.. lol!:hammer:

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Originally Posted by Arch_Will

next thing, the Undertaker would show up.. oh.. oh.. Undertaker... thats what the zombies need.. lol!:hammer:

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doesn't he already exist on their side? pinstripes....bad tattoo's...weird eyes..yea...sounds familiar.

"this week on we're not dead we have changed formats...all wrastling talk! OOOOOHHHHHHHYYEeeeeeeeeaaaAAAHHH"

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Originally Posted by 7oddisdead

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"this week on we're not dead we have changed formats...all wrastling talk! OOOOOHHHHHHHYYEeeeeeeeeaaaAAAHHH"

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CONFIRMED

even on the Set of We're Alive

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Originally Posted by LizzyFabre

. ...We even wrastled!

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It's the People's Podcast! Can you Sssmmmeeeelllll what the Cast is cookin' ?!?

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Originally Posted by 7oddisdead

doesn't he already exist on their side? pinstripes....bad tattoo's...weird eyes..yea...sounds familiar.

"this week on we're not dead we have changed formats...all wrastling talk! OOOOOHHHHHHHYYEeeeeeeeeaaaAAAHHH"

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